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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"What support are we talking about anyway? Careers advice? Psychological support? If the latter what do we actually mean? It can't just be a signpost to NHS Mental Health services.'"
I would certainly suggest that some sort of support with skills and careers post-rugby would be a good starting point. I realise that back in the day, when players used to hang up their boots and go and run a failed pub, the idea of careers and skills advice would have been alien but we've moved on from those days.
I said in a previous post, sport is one of only a handful of industries that arguably distracts young people from mainstream education and channels them down very specific, high risk (and in the case of RL, low-reward) path, only to spit them out at one of various stages. For those lucky enough to get into their 30s still playing the game, it's all they have known but unlike most of us at that stage in life, their career ends rather abruptly. How do those with mouths to feed and mortgages to pay cope without the sort of skills that the modern economy demands?
The work that some clubs have done with colleges and universities is definitely a step forward, and Alker played at a time when that sort of thing was perhaps in its infancy. I also agree that there does need to be some sort of minimum standard imposed, but it should be on the clubs to address in my view. We can't keep simply saying "we can't afford this" because we've already seen that this sort of inaction has a heavy cost.
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| just about every super league club have things in place to help guide players on what to do after there career is over, not alot any club could do if 5-6 years after a player retires he turns to armed robbery.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"just about every super league club have things in place to help guide players on what to do after there career is over, not alot any club could do if 5-6 years after a player retires he turns to armed robbery.'"
To true and the same can be for any person not just rugby league players he will be locked up I hope and that is one more scum bag of the street
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"I don't see anyone feeling sorry for Alker.
We don't know if better post-career support for Alker from either the RFL or Salford would have prevented this but, let's for arguments sake say that it would have helped. It means that Alker doesn't do something incredibly desperate / stupid, the people working in a Wigan fast-food restaurant don't have the trauma of facing an armed robber and the taxpayer doesn't have to foot the bill for another man in prison. Surely everybody wins?'"
Most players seem to have some forward planning now, like has already been said this is six years after he retired no excuses
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"Most players seem to have some forward planning now, like has already been said this is six years after he retired no excuses'"
that sort of player planning and welfare guidance has been on most clubs/players agenda since super league started.
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"Most players seem to have some forward planning now, like has already been said this is six years after he retired no excuses'"
that sort of player planning and welfare guidance has been on most clubs/players agenda since super league started so Alker would have been subject to that over his entire career.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"that sort of player planning and welfare guidance has been on most clubs/players agenda since super league started so Alker would have been subject to that over his entire career.'" Its about 7 years since Alker retired from the professional game, if after care welfare was available I would imagine there would be a time limit of a couple of years to adjust to a "normal environment". Sounds as though he could have been caught with a bad crowd to do something like that.
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| It would be good and a sensible use of some of the money in the game (it wouldn't need a lot) to help players transition into a life outside of RL when their playing days finish. This goes beyond that though.
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"Instead of feeling sorry for Alker who is scum and deserves to go to prison what about the people who were there at the robbery who were probably frightened to death there the real victims'"
While the accusations are very serious they are still just accusations unless and until that Bolton jury decide otherwise.
On player welfare more generally, I think the parallel with the armed forces mentioned earlier is generally an accurate one.
Ultimately the individual bears personal responsibility, but putting programmes in place to help ease the transition... well it can't do any harm, and I can't imagine it'd be massively expensive to at very least raise awareness and outline options.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"No and why should they. Dependency culture none sense. Malcolm Alker will have earned a fair wedge from RL through the years, more than many.
They didn't turn to crime and nether do 99% of the population.
It's not sad he's a low life he was carrying a blade by the sound of it ffs. What about the staff he terrorised?
Get a grip man being a RL player doesn't excuse anything.'"
Well said.... 
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| Alker has been suffering from mental health issues for years by all accounts and it's sad that it has come to this. Horrendous for the victims and tragic for Alker as it will be difficult for him to come back from this. One of the best players to wear the Salford shirt in my near 30 years supporting the club and it's sad to see.
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