Despite the concerns over the pitch, the crowd and ground looks good today, it has that big final feel

And despite the amount of empty seats.

the first pic sums up selfish football fans at all seater stadiums! if those fans were sat as they are supposed to do you would see the pitch!

Its a 54k stadium and England didnt make the final, youve got to be realistic

New Zealand fluffed their chance to get level and now it's looking like it's going to be a hammering.

England lost to this NZ side. Worrying

Morgue-like atmosphere. One way traffic.

Yawn.

International rugby league (outside world cup) is finished, I feel.

Shades of the Lockyer inspired 2004 1st half in the Great Britain vs Australia final at Elland Rd

Was wondering how soon the doom and gloom merchants would be out.

The World Cups aren't always great either. I remember England getting smashed in the semi-final in 2000 by NZ, and NZ then getting the same treatment in the final by Australia.

Today's game is frustrating because the Kiwis looked bright early on, but they failed to take their chance(s), made a few simple errors, and Australia are just ruthless.

Hopefully the Kiwis can come out all guns blazing in the 2nd half and get a few points on the board. Otherwise this is going to be another poor day for international RL.

It's just not a spectacle is it?

Are these spectators going to keep going to these drab, lifeless contests? That's my worry.