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| Bring in Westwood for Farrell
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Bring in Westwood for Farrell'"
Long term Westwood's international career is over, but this is a test series decider, a one-off, so his aggression and ability to play 80 minutes should get him in the side ahead of either Farrel or Whitehead, who offered nothing in attack. McGilveray 's extra grunt deserves a shot on the wing over Burgess who did nowt wrong but doesn't suit these tight defensive encounters. Pity Shenton is not in the squad, but Cudjoe has to replace Bateman if we're to have any attacking threat in the centres. Not sure about the halves: after two games they are hardly 'bedded in' but a change now could completely destabilize the team structure that worked quite well in Hull.
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| Quote: Worlds Apart "McGuire in at scrum half for Williams
Cudjoe in for Bateman at Centre
McGillvary in for Burgess on the wing.'"
McGuire isn't even in the squad.
I'd bring in Westwood for Farrell who is just being ran at constantly by the Kiwis, as he'll add some much needed aggression and an offload game in the back row (saying that Whitehead had 53 offloads last season and I don't recall a single one in two games for England in the last two weeks - again must be down to the coach).
Start Roby, maybe even play him all game and bring on Hodgson for stints as a second hooker option.
We do not need wholesale changes. Hall and Burgess have been fine for the paltry space and service they've been given. Watkins Hardaker Bateman similar, they've been provided with no platform to play with by the back row and HBs.
The biggest change should be in he tactics. We haven't had a better opportunity to show how much more exciting our game is compared to Union after the World Cup and how terrible the England Union side were yet England RL have been more boring to watch in the last two weeks (especially yesterday) than any game in that World Cup. Yesterday was a disgrace!
We need to be far more expansive and actually have something different to one or at most two passes and a drive six times every set all game!
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| Change the game plan completely.
Speed up the tempo considerably.
Stop playing one up football.
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18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
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| Quote: fun time frankie "I fail to see what widdop brings'"
The prestige of an NRL contract, and the love and admiration of Mr Raymond Warren.
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18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
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| The Sydney Roosters bound Wigan star Joseph Burgess has done nothing wrong and does not deserve to be dropped. He has received little ball and no opportunities to run far with it.
The problem is in the halves.
Matthew Smith is a proven incompetent. The successful combination of Daniel McGuire and Robert Burrow needs to be employed immediately.
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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Luke Gale has been the most consistent, influential English half back in super league this year. A real poor decision from Mac to overlook him for the first two tests. An actual centre should be playing too, not a makeshift.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Sydney Roosters bound Wigan star Joseph Burgess has done nothing wrong and does not deserve to be dropped. He has received little ball and no opportunities to run far with it.
The problem is in the halves.
Matthew Smith is a proven incompetent. The successful combination of Daniel McGuire and Robert Burrow needs to be employed immediately.'"
You mean the same Burrows who has been playing hooker?????
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| People keep repeating, Bateman's no centre, like it's a mantra (and because facile parallels with Sam Burgess and the RUWC are too tempting?). Well, watching the game back on TV last night, I'd say Bateman can certainly be criticised for some individual errors; it could be argued he partly at fault for Nightingale's try, he didn't manage to keep Widdop's (rather ill-directed, to be fair) diagonal kick in play on the touch-line in the first half, and he lost the ball in contact once or twice. What I didn't see was him being a 'poor centre' by failing to release his winger when he had him outside him space. Because this didn't happen. Bateman had a busy game (surely saw a lot more of the ball than Watkins, who was criminally under-used), but that's hardly his fault. he made decent ground with the ball in hand. Watkins and Burgess should have seen more of the ball anyway, but that's a reflection of how the team were directed. Or weren't.
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| And I'm one of many who was delighted to see Whitehead in the England side, and yet he's offered nothing. Ferres, on the other hand, had a busy afternoon, and was superb in defence.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Sydney Roosters bound Wigan star Joseph Burgess has done nothing wrong and does not deserve to be dropped. He has received little ball and no opportunities to run far with it.
The problem is in the halves.
Matthew Smith is a proven incompetent. The successful combination of Daniel McGuire and Robert Burrow needs to be employed immediately.'"
You mean the same Burrows who has been playing hooker?????
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| I'd switch Hall and Burgess over so Burgess will play on the same side as who he's played with all year, stick Hall with his team mate and we know he can play on the right too.
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| Hardaker
Burgess
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Williams
Smith
Graham
Hodgson
Hill
Westwood
Bateman
Oloughlin
Roby
Burgess
Cooper
Ferres
Williams and smith have played together all season, and whilst smith has been quiet, they can just slot in and work off their partnership.
Westwood brings experience and aggression which I don't think whitehead provides, and Farrell is not up to the job I don't think. Bateman is but he is a second row and not a centre so he goes in for Farrell.
However it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we had exactly the same 17 as the last 2 tests.
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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| So bring in smith because he is average and quiet but plays for Wigan. I've no doubt thats what Mac will do sadly.
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| Hardaker
Hall
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Cudjoe
McGillvary
Widdop
Gale
Graham
Roby
Hill
Farrell
Ferres
O'Loughlin
Houghton
Westwood
Burgess
Cooper
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