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| It was the right decision. He clearly wasn't trying to ground it.
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| Poor all round, scrappy play, bad discipline, poor officiating and the commentary team are just awful.
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"It was the right decision. He clearly wasn't trying to ground it.'"
I agree that he wasn't trying to ground it but do you think it was conclusive enough to overturn the on field decision? That is key in the rules this year.
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| why wouldn't ratchford just have grounded it?
i don't agree with the rule tho, if it's grounded it's grounded IMO regardless off "intent", would the same apply if an attacking player grounded the ball accidentally? i'm pretty sure the try would be awarded regardless of he intended to ground it or not.
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| Quote South Coast RL="South Coast RL"I agree that he wasn't trying to ground it but do you think it was conclusive enough to overturn the on field decision? That is key in the rules this year.'"
Surely the fact that both video referees agreed that it was a try means there is enough evidence of a try to be conclusive?
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| Quote Saint #1="Saint #1"Surely the fact that both video referees agreed that it was a try means there is enough evidence of a try to be conclusive?'"
They obviously thought so. It's one that will always divide opinion.
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| Quote meast="meast"why wouldn't ratchford just have grounded it?
i don't agree with the rule tho, if it's grounded it's grounded IMO regardless off "intent", would the same apply if an attacking player grounded the ball accidentally? i'm pretty sure the try would be awarded regardless of he intended to ground it or not.'"
The rule was changed after a couple of fullbacks slipped carrying the ball out of their ingoal, grounded it and a drop out was ruled even though they didn't intend to ground it. People complained at the time that the rule was stupid because they clearly weren't trying to ground it, it was unintentional. Moral of the story is that fans are going to complain about the rules and the referees either way 
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| I see Ben Flower is still the same scumbag as he was at the end of last season. I'd say he needs to learn but he hasn't got two brain cells to rub together.
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| Quote CommanderShepard="CommanderShepard"I see Ben Flower is still the same scumbag as he was at the end of last season. I'd say he needs to learn but he hasn't got two brain cells to rub together.'"
What did he do?
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Sims you dirty w@nker'"
& angelic Ben Flower didn't really attempt to slug a Wire who wasn't even facing him did he ?
Slugged one of his own Pies instead & got called up on it by the ref, seen by anyone with two eyes.
Flower = Thug = Coward.
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| Quote Ste100Centurions="Ste100Centurions"& angelic Ben Flower didn't really attempt to slug a Wire who wasn't even facing him did he ?
Slugged one of his own Pies instead & got called up on it by the ref, seen by anyone with two eyes.
Flower = Thug = Coward.'"
It was only Westwood.
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| Flower unfortunately proving he still can't control himself. No need for a punch there especially from behind. Needs a game or 2 ban, mostly due to his prior record.
But Simms needs to be brought to task for that stamp. IIRC he did it in the previous Wire v Wigan game too. He obviously can't control himself too, which is a shame because if he did he'd be a much better player.
2 or 3 match ban for him too.
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