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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"There's a lack of money in the game. But I wonder if that's more to do with the game under pricing itself rather than look at charging a going rate?
Last week at Bradford's season ticket launch the chairman, Marc Green, put out a figure of just under £2.8 million for the club to break even over a year. So, for the game to be profitable, we need clubs at Super League level to be bringing in over £3 million a year. Which means clubs need to be getting 10k crowds on top of Sky/sponsorship monies. Really the buck has to start with the RFL as they have a duty of care to ensure clubs and the sport not only survives but can thrive. Reviews of clubs income streams and marketing would be a good first step. Show clubs how they can improve, don't just leave it to up to them to coast along.'"
I can only imagine that figure is for the Championship and not SL, as I'd have thought £2.8/3m a very low figure for break even in SL. IIRC London were bringing in around that figure and still needing around £1m from David Hughes.
Obviously the figure will be different for different clubs but £3m sounds very low to me, I'd have thought to run a decent club on full salary cap you'd want roughly double that.
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| I thought pretty much all Union clubs here lost money as it was. Could be wrong granted but I really didn't think the league was strong enough to raise it currently. As is mentioned above, could be a big fall-out from this down the line.
And before anyone asks, I'm not a union hater. Grew up playing the game and have no problem watching/playing it to this day.
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| Quote richie166="richie166"I thought pretty much all Union clubs here lost money as it was. Could be wrong granted but I really didn't think the league was strong enough to raise it currently. As is mentioned above, could be a big fall-out from this down the line.
And before anyone asks, I'm not a union hater. Grew up playing the game and have no problem watching/playing it to this day.'"
Many can afford to lose money. Please keep up you rugby league know nothings, 
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"
Last week at Bradford's season ticket launch the chairman, Marc Green, put out a figure of just under £2.8 million for the club to break even over a year. So, for the game to be profitable, we need clubs at Super League level to be bringing in over £3 million a year'"
London broncos turned over £4,000,000 a year up to 2013.....thats for a poor side too.
£4 million is the.number needed to.be a viable club in sl
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"
Last week at Bradford's season ticket launch the chairman, Marc Green, put out a figure of just under £2.8 million for the club to break even over a year. So, for the game to be profitable, we need clubs at Super League level to be bringing in over £3 million a year'"
London broncos turned over £4,000,000 a year up to 2013.....thats for a poor side too.
£4 million is the.number needed to.be a viable club in sl
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"London broncos turned over £4,000,000 a year up to 2013.....thats for a poor side too.
£4 million is the.number needed to.be a viable club in sl'"
That should still be an achievable sum. With the new Sky deal that went through, don't clubs in SL now get £1.5 million off Sky? Add to that an average home crowd of 10k at £20 a head and you're there.
What it needs is for clubs to improve their marketing and be better engaged with their community so people will want to show up and cheer the team on. The trouble is, too many teams for too long have just happily coasted along at whatever level they're at.
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| Union is not all the land of honey and roses. London Welsh got a crowd of around 2k at their first Premiership home game of the season last weekend, in the heartlands of their sport. How they will be able to survive paying £5m+ in salaries without significant private investment is a big question?
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| Quote EHW="EHW"Union is not all the land of honey and roses. London Welsh got a crowd of around 2k at their first Premiership home game of the season last weekend, in the heartlands of their sport. How they will be able to survive paying £5m+ in salaries without significant private investment is a big question?'"
1/ Crowd was 2,700....that's "around" 3,000 not 2.
2/ There is no Union 'Heartland' as such.....especially not like League which is now 100% along 1 road in the north when you discuss top tier.
3/Private inestment is how the majority of Union clubs survive. saracens have a naming and sponsorship deal that's bigger then the ENTIRE SUPERLEAGUE.
4/ Union is as much of a basket case as League is in the UK, but for a whole different set of reasons. The difference is that you can be assured that the game as a whole will leverage a great deal more from the exposure of next years World Cup than we managed to from 2013.
5/ comparisons with the bigger and more popular code always end badly on these boards and as such, they are pointless. London welsh play in Oxford.....they and their club and fans are from Richmond 54 miles away and yet they still attract crowds that London Broncos can only dream about. belittling their efforts doesnt make superleague any better,.......it just smacks of insicurity.
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| Ferocious, at the time I made this thread the other one didn't exist
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| I'm all for being level headed and cautious given recent financial disasters at some clubs, but the time is coming when League really needs to introduce the marquee signing and/or increase the cap. The catious approach is leaving us behind, way behind. Its becoming a game of all or bust...take the risk RFL!
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| Quote RhinoNeil="RhinoNeil"I'm all for being level headed and cautious given recent financial disasters at some clubs, but the time is coming when League really needs to introduce the marquee signing and/or increase the cap. The catious approach is leaving us behind, way behind. Its becoming a game of all or bust...take the risk RFL!'"
When you say Marquee signing is that a Union player you are thinking about?
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| I for one am very happy to keep RL a working class marginal sport if it keeps me from having to pay 700 quid a ticket to watch a game with a load of prawn sandwich rugger types.
Although I agree we need to grow the sport, you should also be careful what you wish for. I for one am happy that we are an accessible, salt of the earth sport without multi millionaire prima Donna players and billionaire owners
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