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| Quote: Tigerade "So why are 4 of the 6 clubs behind a move to a 10 team SL playing each other 3 times ?'"
By far the best option for SL if we want to move from the insipid nature of a lot of games
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "You can learn all you need to know about your typical forum RL fan simply by the fact that there is very limited discussion about the World Cup itself, team selection etc., but the prophets of doom thread, simply about WC ticket sales, has around a billion posts.'"
In fairness FA, ticket sales are one of the most I operant things about this WC. The spot light and media attention is really on us to finally showcase our sport to the world and become bigger and get more investment. The product will take care of itself with some superb games. But we need to paint a good image and show that RL isn't small time.
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| REgarding ticket sales thread. It was started in JUNE.
Of course it's going to have a lot of posts. Any thread about team selection in June would have been lost amidst the threads on SL matters.
There are 2 threads relating to the first match about aussie team selection and about the first try scorer. But in the end the real talking will start when the games kick off.
We can't really talk about team selection before seeing the team play. Only 4k saw the debarcle at the Italy game, and I think only 3 players got an honourable mention that day.
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| Quote: jimlav " The WC hasnt even started yet, how can it be overshadowing it. Especially when 99% of people in this country will be blissfully unaware of what is going on behind the scenes and will watch the WC anyway. '"
99% of people in this country aren't even aware that there is a RL World Cup going on... Now that's something we need to be worrying about.
I'm not looking forward to this tournament.... International RL is farcical... RL is my number one sport by a country mile, and if I can't buy into it... how on earth is the rest of the country going to.
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| Quote: LoyalFan "99% of people in this country aren't even aware that there is a RL World Cup going on... Now that's something we need to be worrying about.
I'm not looking forward to this tournament.... International RL is farcical... RL is my number one sport by a country mile, and if I can't buy into it... how on earth is the rest of the country going to.'"
With friends like these eh ?
Think of this when you think about rugby league: use it or lose it.
If the rah-rahs can turn out en-masse for meaningless internationals why can't we ? Get behind the cause and we can make the game stronger together.
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: LoyalFan "99% of people in this country aren't even aware that there is a RL World Cup going on... Now that's something we need to be worrying about.
I'm not looking forward to this tournament.... International RL is farcical... RL is my number one sport by a country mile, and if I can't buy into it... how on earth is the rest of the country going to.'"
I'd be willing to put a bet on that percentage.
So your saying less than seven hundred thousand people know that the WC is on?????
There is no way to prove it but given that it's been on lots of ads on the Beeb. I think a fair few million know about it.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'd be willing to put a bet on that percentage.
So your saying less than seven hundred thousand people know that the WC is on?????
There is no way to prove it but given that it's been on lots of ads on the Beeb. I think a fair few million know about it.
Agreed... there will be more than 700,000 who know about it... I was being facetious... However... There are probably less than that who either care about it or actually take it seriously.
I work for a large company in Salford. I sit among people from Manchester, Liverpool, Warrington, Lancashire... and spent an age last week trying to push the merits of the RLWC... most of them had no idea it was on... the rest thought it was like some kind of triangular tournament for some tin pot trophy. The one person who knew about it described it as a bunch of friendlies prior to Australia playing New Zealand in the final. Even though I just can't get excited by the concept, I was doing my bit as a RL fan... but I was wasting my breath.
The best bit was trying to do it justice by discussing the TV coverage... Telling them that little Premier Sports had the full TV rights to it... Now that does it no favours as all.
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| Shooting yourself in both feet is a valid point. Firstly the embarrasing Italy defeat followed by news about Hock (which in my view would have been better dealt with privately) and then the soap opera of 6 clubs walking out of a RFL meeting. You couldn't make it up days before what should be a great opportunity to promote the sport positively in the UK. I hate to say it but this wouldn't happen in Rugby Union, especially before a World Cup..
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Shooting yourself in both feet is a valid point. Firstly the embarrasing Italy defeat followed by news about Hock (which in my view would have been better dealt with privately) and then the soap opera of 6 clubs walking out of a RFL meeting. You couldn't make it up days before what should be a great opportunity to promote the sport positively in the UK. I hate to say it but this wouldn't happen in Rugby Union.'"
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
There was plenty of scandal ahead of the Lions tour of Australia earlier in the year.
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| Listening to what Pearson said and reading in between the lines a bit I would assume the following:
The RFL want 3 leagues of 8 and the clubs are pretty much split 50/50 between that and 1 up 1 down. With 3 clubs not represented the RFL/ GH thought it would be a good moment to vote, thinking it would swing it in their favour (which tells me Saints and possibly Bradford are in favour of one up one down). The 6 clubs thought this was, in Pearsons words, "a bit naughty," hence the walkout.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
There was plenty of scandal ahead of the Lions tour of Australia earlier in the year.'"
I'm serious Wigg'n people need to stop being so self ed and think of the game as a whole rather than themselves, their own club or protecting their own reputations. RL people need to adopt a radical new approach of promoting the game first rather than thinking of number one all the time and trying to save face or gain one upmanship. For instance the reaction of some people on RL fans if a club is in financial difficulties or goes into admin is celebrated.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
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| Quote: LoyalFan "99% of people in this country aren't even aware that there is a RL World Cup going on... Now that's something we need to be worrying about.
I'm not looking forward to this tournament.... International RL is farcical... RL is my number one sport by a country mile, and if I can't buy into it... how on earth is the rest of the country going to.'"
careful buddy...you'll have Speccy and the "vast majority" of posters asking the mods to ban you for posts like that....You're not allowed be critical of the sport...it's about hidden agendas and objectives apparently
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| Quote: Wirecutter "I'm serious Wigg'n people need to stop being so self ed and think of the game as a whole rather than themselves, their own club or protecting their own reputations. RL people need to adopt a radical new approach of promoting the game first rather than thinking of number one all the time and trying to save face or gain one upmanship. For instance the reaction of some people on RL fans if a club is in financial difficulties or goes into admin is celebrated.'"
But do you not think that's what the 6 clubs are trying to do?
We all wear rose tinted glasses when it comes to our clubs, but as someone who has listened to just about every Adam Pearson interview and press release since he bought Hull I genuinely believe that he has the game at heart and wants to do right by the game as a whole. At the forum tonight he talked very positively about the World Cup and the benefits it can bring to the sport, and he also spoke positively about the game as a whole and said how the trouble we are in is very easily rectifiable. However there needs to be some changes made and the clubs have to stick up for themselves and push for better tv deals, sponsorship deals etc.
Walking out might not be the best way around it but at least they have made their point and hopefully things will happen.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: LoyalFan "99% of people in this country aren't even aware that there is a RL World Cup going on... Now that's something we need to be worrying about.
I'm not looking forward to this tournament.... International RL is farcical... RL is my number one sport by a country mile, and if I can't buy into it... how on earth is the rest of the country going to.'"
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Enjoy the WC.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "But do you not think that's what the 6 clubs are trying to do?
We all wear rose tinted glasses when it comes to our clubs, but as someone who has listened to just about every Adam Pearson interview and press release since he bought Hull I genuinely believe that he has the game at heart and wants to do right by the game as a whole. At the forum tonight he talked very positively about the World Cup and the benefits it can bring to the sport, and he also spoke positively about the game as a whole and said how the trouble we are in is very easily rectifiable. However there needs to be some changes made and the clubs have to stick up for themselves and push for better tv deals, sponsorship deals etc.
Walking out might not be the best way around it but at least they have made their point and hopefully things will happen.'"
My post wasn't directed solely at the representatives of those 6 clubs. I think it's a much wider problem in british RL and I believe it's existed for decades. It's just a real shame that it's come to this on the eve of the World Cup, creating a divide within british rugby league when our sport needs to show unity and solidarity.
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