We have beaten Leeds and Warrington away already this season.

Why can't we do this again?

I'm not saying we will, but to say 'no chance' when we have already done that with this team when we weren't playing as well as we are now...

Let's look at the evidence....they drew 22-22 at home with Hull and won at Leeds (30-22) and Warrington (22-10) earlier this season. They're more than capable, alright.

If we dont do it this year I would prefer saints tbh , that said anyone but Leeds or kr really

Good luck to 'em, they've had injuries all year long and to be honest other than a few anti Nathan Brown comments, have stuck by their team.

Now they're getting players back they're starting to show what they can do, still behind the top 4 at the moment for me, but in a little group of very competitive teams along with Hull, KR, Catalans & Wakey.

Two reasons for me-

1- you will need to do that (or similar) in a row.

2- When it comes to the crunch games they're better sides and your pack won't be able to live with them.

We'll see but I'll be stunned if Saints are holding the trophy aloft at OT come October.

Like Leeds couldn't live with Wigan last season when it came to the crunch? It can happen and has happened.

I'd be stunned too, but you never know

I must admit I chuckled when my mate tipped them for the Grand Final at the start of the year but they are quietly going about their business and creeping up the table. Still very tough to beat if you draw them in the play-offs.

But like my original point, Leeds were a side who's league position lied whereas Saints does not!

Still can't see past Leeds and Wigan for the Grand Final this year, though I can't see why Saints won't give it a good shout.

Unfortunately my pessimistic nature doesn't allow me to believe that we can win the Grand Final this year.

It's a simple ko competition and as anything can happen, it's feasible to suggest Sts could win it.

Such a win however would simply underline the fact that RL's most prestigious comp, can be won by the poorest of teams and as such really deserves to have either the format changed, or be scrapped.

I assume the Wigan fan in you is the reason for the "poorest of teams" comment.

Saints have not had the best of seasons so far, but they are far from the standard of Salford, London or Castleford. They are still a pretty decent outfit, as you would know from a couple of Monday's ago.

Agreed that the format needs to be changed though, and I'm sure it will be when the competition restructures in 2015.

Why did it lie in their case, but it does not in ours? Just out of interest.