Leeds are not paying the full salary cap, they never have and they never will, this year they will be 3/400k below the cap.

Never liked mac as a coach. Was really poor down here at London, talking the team up way beyond realistic expectations then slating the players after they lost. Not the right man for the Rhinoscerouses job.

I assume you have evidence of this.

The guy won the grand final. How many other super league coaches can say the same thing?

John Kear won the CC at Hull after beating 5 SL teams, including that year's top 3. He was sacked about 8 months later.

Moral of the story: one swallow doesn't make a summer.

Brought in Moore, Griffin, Harauki. Signs Ablett on a 5 year deal.

He just loves a slow steady Eddie- mastered it at the Quins. Got rid of all the skill and speed and sent out a team of second rowers. The blokes useless.

Whereas you now have a coach that has moved the club forwards to bigger and better things.

Yes and it's rather personal, but I'm sure you knew that.

Or a coach who is young and still learning much like his team?

Mac knows where the door is if he wants out its just a case of will they are him out of it in a straight jacket, a coffin or will he just walk?

he can't go much longer.
dammit i like the man. he comes over as a really decent guy who is a deep thinker about the game.

sadly as a coach he isn't good enough. no structure, no shape, no sense even in his decisions.
the squad needs three or four top class players but a top coach would have them in the top 5

Whereas now we have someone even more out of his depth. But that's not really the discussion here.

Your club is probably coming into a phase that Saints where in and still are around 3 years ago . Your main pivotal players at 1, 6, 7, 9 and 13 are less effective, mainly coming to the end of their careers. Your props are also losing there consistency of high performance. Brian Mac has a much harder job than previous coaches to create a dominance in superleague, his purple patch being the grand final last season. Top coaches availability is thin on the ground, Brian Noble perhaps but he only has a Plan A and a Plan A and a Plan A.

He cannot. Leeds generally run a little below full cap. This year they started off, no doubt, miles below it as no replacement for Senior could be found. There has been a rash of renegotiated deals which, I understand, include re-signing fees which will be made to count under the 2012 cap - but which will leave plenty of space going forward.

[quo]tehe can't go much longer.
dammit i like the man. he comes over as a really decent guy who is a deep thinker about the game.

sadly as a coach he isn't good enough. no structure, no shape, no sense even in his decisions.
the squad needs three or four top class players but a top coach would have them in the top 5[
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I think more than three or four players.We are struggling but I can't see many of the Leeds pack getting a game for the Bulls