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| Certainly nobody is suggesting that Saints are deliberately starting their season badly, but it's been suggested by plenty recently that a team need not lament too much over early form or losses in the league as "the competition only starts in September" (or words to that effect). I just think that's a rather harmful and pessimistic way to portray our sport.
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| Saints' start has been similar to Leeds' last year so I wouldn't panic just yet if I was a Saints fan. However I've been very disapointed with Perry and the rest of the pack for that matter. Hohaia is a jack of all trades type player, I really don't know why Saints signed him.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Saints' start has been similar to Leeds' last year so I wouldn't panic just yet if I was a Saints fan. However I've been very disapointed with Perry and the rest of the pack for that matter. Hohaia is a jack of all trades type player, I really don't know why Saints signed him.'"
I'd agree with you if we still had the likes of Graham, Long or Cunningham. But this side isn't in a false position really. Perhaps one or two positions south of where we should be, but there isn't the quality in the side to 'do a Leeds'. With Leeds, you still had the class of McGuire, Sinfield, Burrow, Buderus and the pacey young players.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Saints' start has been similar to Leeds' last year '"
I disagree. Leeds had a number of issues at the start of last season.
Not just a new coach, but a completly new coaching team as well as injuries to key players. Despie this, they still showed signs of quality in certain games and performances, just they were inconsistent and were televised getting thrashed by some of the other big teams but probably made the casual viewer on here thnk they were worse than they actually were.
Saints have their own issues, and i wouldn't write them off.
I just don't think they bear comparison to leeds last season.
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| The situation with the regular season fixtures isn't good and needs to be changed urgently.
I'm rapidly losing interest in the Super League competition. Wigan will be in the 8, no question about that. Very difficult to muster enthusiasm for the regular season knowing that - its like 27 glorified friendlies.
Either reduce the number of teams to 5/6 or change the structure so there is a real, significant reward for finishing in the top positions.
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| only one thing will solve this.....Champions = League winners.......end of.
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| Quote: vbfg "Bring back the original top 5 system. Finishing place meant something, while leaving room for an upset.'"
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| If Saints don t start to win a few they will have every opportunity to prove Eddie and Stevos hypothisis. Also I would think avoiding going to Perpignan in the playoffs would be a strong motivator to all clubs to make sure they win a maximum amount of regular season games.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Yep, six maximum. It's ridiculous that a team finishing in the bottom half of the table makes the play offs.'"
It has to be an odd number. Without that the bottom of the play off positions turns into straight quarter finals, which might as well be a lottery. What you want it to be is a "here's what you could have won" moment for both teams with a very outside chance of it turning into something special for a team that's outstanding when the chips are down.
1 bye
A: 2 v 3
B: 4 v 5
C: 1 v A-Winner
D: A-Loser v B-W
E: C-L v D-W
It's the only system that ever made sense.
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| Wouldn't you have 2 v 5, 3 v 4 so that the higher the league position the better the advantage?
For mine I'd like to see a complete change. How about:
League Leaders v Challenge Cup Winners = Champions
Ok, I don't know what happens when League Leaders and Challenge Cup Winners are one and the same, but...
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| I've been banging on about this since I joined this flippin forum.
Sky is taking us down a path we shouldn't go.
Comments Eddie made yesterday shows his lack of appreciation for the fans who turn up week after week. To us it does matter who wins the weekly games and who wins the league.
Just stick to telling us who scores the tries Eddie & Stevo, it's our game, not Sky's.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "It's sad to see the Sky commentary lauding over the fact the weekly rounds don't actually matter (in response to Saints terrible form at present). I've just heard them use phrases like "you only have to be in it to win it", "teams used to think you had to finish first or second but that myth has been disproved" and "perhaps we'll see a team win [the GF] from 6 or below."
Sorry, but all those things are negative, in my opinion. We shouldn't have a competition were nobody really cares if you lose in the weekly rounds and where you can be crowned "champions" after being consistently poor. And how bloody short-sighted can you be, broadcasting with glee the fact that the very thing you're commentating on every week doesn't really matter! Idiots!
On a more positive note, well done Bradford!'"
totally agree , plus there needs to be more recognition for finishing top of the league
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| Quote: boomer "l agree top 8 promotes mediocraty top 5 was right'"
spot on , finish in the bottom half of the league and get awarded a play off spot , just isnt right is it
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Saville Row "I've been banging on about this since I joined this flippin forum.
Sky is taking us down a path we shouldn't go.
Comments Eddie made yesterday shows his lack of appreciation for the fans who turn up week after week. To us it does matter who wins the weekly games and who wins the league.
Just stick to telling us who scores the tries Eddie & Stevo, it's our game, not Sky's.'"
It matters to us, yes, but last year's GF devalued last year's weekly rounds, and we're now seeing the effect of this with both fans and pundits alike treating the rounds more like glorified friendlies where only pride is at stake. My nightmare scenario is a team "winning" from 8th, yet the Sky commentary team seem to think this would be a good thing. I think if they had their way the season would just be one long, convoluted knock out comp packed with gimmicks.
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| league leaders champions , then just bring the top 8 premiership play offs back in its original format 1 v 8 , 2 v 7 etc
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