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| Until there is a minimum & Maximum salary cap limit there will always be hammerings in Super League. One thing about the NRL is you see much closer games and they dont have a NFL like style draft system.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "A bandwagon Wire fan by the sounds of it.
Don't know much about pre 2009 I take it? Cullen did a lot of good things for you.'"
well said can do without idiotic posts like that , cullen gave 20 years service to the wire
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Too many teams don't spend to the cap and the coaching is awful.
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1673_1436275874.jpg Jamie Jones-Buchanan
"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire"
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| Quote: Mr_Moranovich "Very harsh that, yes he never won anything at Warrington but he has done alot of good things for the club not only on the pitch, Warrington wouldn't be where it is as a club without Cullen!!!!'"
It was the Wire chairman who changed everything for them. Paul Cullen was never going to take them to the heights they are at now. The chairman was the instigator.
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| Quote: Ovavoo "It was the Wire chairman who changed everything for them. Paul Cullen was never going to take them to the heights they are at now. The chairman was the instigator.'"
I'm not on about league positions, challenge cups im on about when he was still playing and doing alot of work behind the scenes in the office and stuff, he was the one who got the wolfpack season tickets going also he was the one who got the ball rolling with us changing to Wolves.
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| The NRL has two advantages - a far bigger and better pool of players and the fact that most teams spend close to the cap. David Gallop (NRL CEO) said that some SL teams only spend around 30% of the cap. Its not surprising that a team that can only afford to spend a third of the amount of other clubs will struggle to have any depth or quality in their squad.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: wire-till-i-die "well said can do without idiotic posts like that , cullen gave 20 years service to the wire'" And what did he get at the end?
Loads of abuse
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| Quote: middleman "edited for accuracy
Not totally true since the takover of the club in March... Trinity have been finacially stable, however the expected 'sword of dameclese' in the franchise process meant that no one... literally no one... wanted to sign with a club who were expected to lose superleague status.
but i take your point!
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| I'd rather have SL cut down to a league on 10 or 12. Or possibly have the Super League as a 10 Club league, and then the league below that being another 10 club league.
So, say, a SL comprising of
Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Catalans, Hudds, Cas, Leeds, Hull FC, Hull KR, Bradford
and then a league below with
Salford, Wakefield, Quins, Widnes, Halifax, Fev, Barrow, Leigh, Crusaders (if they've gotten themselves sorted) and 1 other.
You could then maybe get a 1-for-1 promotion/relegation between these two leagues, or stick with the franchise system.
It would also have other benefits - 2nd league teams have something more realistic to aim for, the quality of players in these leagues should improve, and it's better for the player's health as they're playing less games per season, amongst other things that I can't explain coherently at 2.30am.
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| It's more to do with the changing nature of RL I think. Small differences in the teams can mean big points.
Much as it pains me, take Huddersfield. On form capable of beating anyone, and topping the league but have had off days where they shipped 30+ points against they might have expected to deal with "easily"
It's become a truism that RL is a game of inches, maybe even millimetres. If one team has it's calibration off by a smidge then they can easily concede points, and how often do we see halftime leads of 18 or 20 points over turned?
I wouldn't mind seeing a bonus point for close games, since many many times a very close game has been decided by a contentious call or miracle bounce of the ball.
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| Rugby League (in particular in the summer era with fast pitches etc) is a sport that will always have lob sided score lines. It simply isn’t a sport where a team can play for a draw or keep the score down
In football, a team can put 10 or 11 men behind the ball and a clearly inferior side can achieve a 0-0 or lose by a small margin. In RU, the laws of the game allow for negative tactics – i.e. removing the ball from the pitch on a regular basis and slow the play down. But in League, this can’t happen – one team doesn’t have to be better by too much to get 20 or 30 points on their opponents... it is a sport where it is very difficult to be defensively minded
The first half of this season was as competitive as I have seen for a long time with a lot of upset wins. It is fair to say that the teams with the larger (more depth in quality) have come to the fore in the second half of the season but that is to be expected and we are in continuous development not overnight change
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| RL is a momentum sport. If it see-saws back and forth it makes for a compelling spectacle. But you do sometimes see games when one teams dominance, particularly in terms of weight of possession, becomes almost self-perpetuating, as the opposition tire and penalties mount.
As a supporter of a team that has played big chunks of the game without the ball this season, team-that-scores-kicks-off appeals.
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| Quote: Dunbar "Rugby League (in particular in the summer era with fast pitches etc) is a sport that will always have lob sided score lines. It simply isn’t a sport where a team can play for a draw or keep the score down'"
In the same period (of 3 weeks), the NRL has produced only 3/24 games where a team has been hammered (assuming 30 points is a hammering and 2 of those games the points difference was EXACTLY 30) and in only 2/24 games has a team scored more than 40.
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| That's because the NRL is incredibly tedious.
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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "In the same period (of 3 weeks), the NRL has produced only 3/24 games where a team has been hammered (assuming 30 points is a hammering and 2 of those games the points difference was EXACTLY 30) and in only 2/24 games has a team scored more than 40.'"
And it is the even competition that the NRL demonstrates that we are striving towards - the Australian system (without P&R funnily enough) has allowed teams to develop their squads for the last several decades and build programmes of development for the future without the need for overnight fixes
Our league is more even than it has been but we are not there yet... hence my point below which you conveniently left out of your quote
Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "we are in continuous development not overnight change'"
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