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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Moving the SLS about so frequently will obviously have a detrimental by shifting it, almost constantly. But I guess it reflects the BBCs attitude to the game.
I'm surprised the likes of ITV haven't picked up a highlights as outside ITV's primary channel, it don't recall them having a regular ratings winner.
There must be plenty of RL fans who can afford Sky, seeing as SL is second only to football for viewing figures.
The fundamental issue underlining all this, is the sport here doesn't compare in popularity in this country.'"
About 4 years ago the "World" club chalange pulled in 160k viewers, two weeks later 2.5 million watched the first round of the CC on BBC. Snooker has more viewers than SL.
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| Quote: Thoth "It is treated better by the BBC than any other sport with the exception of football.
Does well out of celebrity Juice and This Is Essex with ITV 3 doing regularly well with reruns of crime thrillers. Not sure what they would get from showing a RL highlights program other than filling their schedule.
Is this actually true ? If it is based on weekly viewing figures of individual games not once this season has RL been the second ranked sport. In terms of aggregate viewing figures it is certainly behind more sports than football.'"
I think you may be in the minority of one on that point.
ITV2 has two regular programmes, I am sure there could be scope for an additional regular programme. As for what it would bring, regular viewers with a known demographic.
I am going off the comments made by the RFL.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Unfortunately we don't have the same calibre of person involved over here. It's more a case of Sky saying, "Here is your deal, no one else has bid..." and the RFL saying, "Okay, thank you".'"
Yes that's pretty much how it will probably go. Three weeks ago Sky renewed their broadcast deal for the Football League and because there were no other bidders they reduced the money on offer by 25% (from £264m to £195m) and also demanded an extra 33% of output (from 75 games per season to 100). I would not be at all surprised if the same happens with our deal.
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| Quote: Derwent "Yes that's pretty much how it will probably go. Three weeks ago Sky renewed their broadcast deal for the Football League and because there were no other bidders they reduced the money on offer by 25% (from £264m to £195m) and also demanded an extra 33% of output (from 75 games per season to 100). I would not be at all surprised if the same happens with our deal.'"
Ah the infamous M&S business model
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Ah the infamous M&S business model
Yep, but its a buyer's market so what can you do ? The trouble is we need them more than they need us. Short & curlies.
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| Quote: Derwent "Yep, but its a buyer's market so what can you do ? The trouble is we need them more than they need us. Short & curlies.'"
True and because of this I reckon we will receive less money than the current deal.
It's a pity that we can't market the game properly and other backers may come into the bidding rights.
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| Its amazing how people with absolutely no media/financial knowledge,have all the financial solutions.
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Quote: Thoth "
Is this actually true ? If it is based on weekly viewing figures of individual games not once this season has RL been the second ranked sport. In terms of aggregate viewing figures it is certainly behind more sports than football.'"
Go to www.barb.co.uk
On weekly viewing top 10 for Sky Sports. On numerous occasions live Super league is the 2nd ranked sport. Usually behind 6 or so football matches/shows. Mar 22- 28 is an example of this. Same for week before.
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Quote: Thoth "
Is this actually true ? If it is based on weekly viewing figures of individual games not once this season has RL been the second ranked sport. In terms of aggregate viewing figures it is certainly behind more sports than football.'"
Go to www.barb.co.uk
On weekly viewing top 10 for Sky Sports. On numerous occasions live Super league is the 2nd ranked sport. Usually behind 6 or so football matches/shows. Mar 22- 28 is an example of this. Same for week before.
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| We must be prepared to let them walk, who needs who more?
This is where the split in the game exposes our weakness in negotiation, Sky losing 50,000 subscribers overnight would make them think.
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| Quote: dixie "Go to
I’m all for talking up our sport but I don’t know where you get this from
Looking at Sky Sports 1, 2, 3 & 4 figures for the 21st to 27th of March, the following are the top viewed programmes with 000’s of viewers listed
From what I can see, we rank behind football, cricket world cup, darts, WWE wrestling and (very worrying) Super Rugby Union (that may have been the match played at Wembley though)
WALES V ENGLAND-LIVE (SAT 1400) 1434
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-SLVENG (SAT 0830) 569
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-AUSVIND (THU 0830) 326
HUDDERSFIELD V NOTTS COUNTY-LIVE (SUN 1555) 273
REP OF IRELAND V MACEDONIA-LIVE (SAT 1915) 258
LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (THU 1900) 248
M K DONS V PETERBOROUGH-LIVE (MON 1930) 244
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-NZVSA (FRI 0800) 214
BULGARIA V SWITZERLAND-LIVE (SAT 1749) 209
SERBIA V NORTHERN IRELAND-LIVE (FRI 1900) 194
GOALS ON SUNDAY (SUN 1100) 186
LIVE SUPER RUGBY UNION (SUN 1555) 149
WWE LATE NIGHT RAW - LIVE (MON 2500) 146
WWE LATE NIGHT SMACKDOWN (FRI 2200) 133
LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1930) 125
LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (SAT 1730) 120
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| Quote: Speccy "Its amazing how people with absolutely no media/financial knowledge,have all the financial solutions.'"
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| I thought the ones with all the financial knowledge got the country in the mess it is today
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| Quote: Dunbar "I’m all for talking up our sport but I don’t know where you get this from
Looking at Sky Sports 1, 2, 3 & 4 figures for the 21st to 27th of March, the following are the top viewed programmes with 000’s of viewers listed
From what I can see, we rank behind football, cricket world cup, darts, WWE wrestling and (very worrying) Super Rugby Union (that may have been the match played at Wembley though)
WALES V ENGLAND-LIVE (SAT 1400) 1434
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-SLVENG (SAT 0830) 569
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-AUSVIND (THU 0830) 326
HUDDERSFIELD V NOTTS COUNTY-LIVE (SUN 1555) 273
REP OF IRELAND V MACEDONIA-LIVE (SAT 1915) 258
LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (THU 1900) 248
M K DONS V PETERBOROUGH-LIVE (MON 1930) 244
LIVE ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP-NZVSA (FRI 0800) 214
BULGARIA V SWITZERLAND-LIVE (SAT 1749) 209
SERBIA V NORTHERN IRELAND-LIVE (FRI 1900) 194
GOALS ON SUNDAY (SUN 1100) 186
LIVE SUPER RUGBY UNION (SUN 1555) 149
WWE LATE NIGHT RAW - LIVE (MON 2500) 146
WWE LATE NIGHT SMACKDOWN (FRI 2200) 133
LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1930) 125
LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (SAT 1730) 120'"
Come on, there is plenty of weeks where Super league is 2nd over past few years. Not really gonna complain about rivalling cricket world cup, hardly on every year.
And i had 28th march 2010 and week before that. haha
Sky Sports 1
w/e 28 Mar 2010
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1 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1500) 1,148
2 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1155) 555
3 LEEDS V MILLWALL-LIVE (MON 1930) 470
4 CRYSTAL PALACE V CARDIFF-LIVE (SAT 1230) 428
5 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY 09-10 (SAT 1500) 426
6 SUPER SUNDAY - THE LAST WORD (SUN 1830) 287
7 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1931) 282
8 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WEEKLY (SUN 1429) 258
9 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (THU 1901) 226
10 SOCCER AM (SAT 0901)
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| Quote: dixie "Come on, there is plenty of weeks where Super league is 2nd over past few years. Not really gonna complain about rivalling cricket world cup, hardly on every year.
And i had 28th march 2010 and week before that. haha
Sky Sports 1
w/e 28 Mar 2010
000's
1 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1500) 1,148
2 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1155) 555
3 LEEDS V MILLWALL-LIVE (MON 1930) 470
4 CRYSTAL PALACE V CARDIFF-LIVE (SAT 1230) 428
5 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY 09-10 (SAT 1500) 426
6 SUPER SUNDAY - THE LAST WORD (SUN 1830) 287
7 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1931) 282
8 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WEEKLY (SUN 1429) 258
9 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (THU 1901) 226
10 SOCCER AM (SAT 0901)'"
Fair enough - I do think that Super League is a quality product for Sky
What worries me a little is that the audience above is 282,000 whereas the highest figure SL has had this year is 214,000, I hope this isn't a trend (very difficult to analyse as you have to look at the figures week by week)
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