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Quote: So Grose but So Good "Wakefield and Crusaders out, Widnes and Halifax in for me. If any team goes into administration in the previous 3 years then they should not be considered for a licence.'"


Why 3 years and not 3 years and 4 months?

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Quote: So Grose but So Good "Wakefield and Crusaders out, Widnes and Halifax in for me. If any team goes into administration in the previous 3 years then they should not be considered for a licence.'"

And you think Widnes should be in? You have been listening yeah?

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Wirefan "No need to wait til 11.30 folks.
Well done Widnes. Unlucky Wakefield. There can only be THAT outcome.'"


Yup.

You are right.

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Sky Sports News just went to Eddie at the Stobart and only after about 10 mins of waffling on about Widnes did the guy in the studio even utter the words Halifax and Barrow, before the piece just finished.

I hope one of the other two get it - seems like it's a done deal for the Chemics though...

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Quote: Saddened! "In what way bar their rented council stadium are Widnes any better than Wakefield?

Youth development - Wakefield win for me. Academy champions are they not?

Support base - Probably very similar

Facilities - Widnes win here.

Finances - Equal. Both reformed under new ownership after going into administration through spending beyond their means.

On field ability - Widnes aren't the best team in the Championship and Wakefield are far from the worst in Super League so its a win for Wakey here.'"


Youth Developement - For a championship club, our 18s won the division last year against all SL opposition and the under 16s were unbeaten. Not bad really is it?
Support base - I'd go as far to say we'd average around 7k in SL and we have one of the best away support in the country. Even in the current division and 90% of the opposition are in yorkshire.
Facilities - Widnes
Finances - Although we have both been in administration, we have 3 years of solvancy and our chairman has put his own millions, literally in the club.

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widnes is trending on ter

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Can of worms debate discussed many times but it is my opinion that SL would be a better place with Widnes, Halifax in instead of Crusaders and Quins. Just my opinion that we need the grass roots to be strong before we invent new teams/move out of territory, and the London experiment just has not worked out for mine. Catalans has worked but they were already well established in the French Championship.

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Although I want Widnes to get the nod because they got shafted over last time round in favour of Crusaders part of me wants Halifax to get it just because of the hysterical 'conspiracy' and 'Lifes so unfair' outpourings we will get over on the Widnes board if they dont get in.

Great reading though.

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10 mins to go.

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Saddened! " In what way bar their rented council stadium are Widnes any better than Wakefield? '"

That’ll be the modern stadium which Saints are currently renting too? Going by that, then Wigan and Hull FC should be kicked out of Super League.

Quote: Saddened! " Youth development - Wakefield win for me. Academy champions are they not?'"

No, that was a couple of years ago. Last season it was the Widnes Vikings 16’s and 18’s which dominated. The 16’s went unbeaten.

Quote: Saddened! " Support base - Probably very similar'"

No, we had a larger support base every year that we were in Super League than several current clubs, such as Hudds, Broncoquins and Salford.

-----------2002 2003 2004 2005

Widnes
I think you’d have to be a complete numbskull to ignore the reality of the current financial state of the Widnes Vikings. They will be able to spend up to the full salary cap. That strengthens Super League.


Quote: Saddened! " Facilities - Widnes win here.'"

Indeed it does and your answer contradicts your opening statement



Quote: Saddened! " On field ability - Widnes aren't the best team in the Championship and Wakefield are far from the worst in Super League so its a win for Wakey here '"

That’s quite true, but even you are not stupid enough to think that the same team would be coming up to SL.

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Quote: Wirefan "Can of worms debate discussed many times but it is my opinion that SL would be a better place with Widnes, Halifax in instead of Crusaders and Quins. Just my opinion that we need the grass roots to be strong before we invent new teams/move out of territory, and the London experiment just has not worked out for mine. Catalans has worked but they were already well established in the French Championship.'"

the Grass Roots are very strong in those two areas. Its not going to make it any stronger adding a 6th club in west yorkshire.

I could understand the strengthening the grass roots argument for Cumbria but not in this case.

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I feel sorry for the other applicants. Today is the Widnes show. Sky have revealed the decision already in how they've made it all about Widnes.

What I don't get is why the future of the current Sl sides isn't being decided at the same time. What if they review the applications and decide all the current teams deserve their place or are protected by being a franchise operation ?

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Quote: Saddened! "I feel sorry for the other applicants. Today is the Widnes show. Sky have revealed the decision already in how they've made it all about Widnes.

What I don't get is why the future of the current Sl sides isn't being decided at the same time. What if they review the applications and decide all the current teams deserve their place or are protected by being a franchise operation ?'"


if they dont let widnes in that would be hilarious! wish it was an early april fools day

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Quote: PHIPPS "Although I want Widnes to get the nod because they got shafted over last time round in favour of Crusaders '"



crusaders were always gonna get in......salford got in instead of widnes hth....

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Widnes!!!!!

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I'm suprised Widnes got in....no really sleepy.gif

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