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simpsons/PDT13.gif Brad Fitler "If the ref's decision decides your game. You haven't done enough prior."
Referees are like women, they make snap decisions and never reverse them.
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "In the other code a ref can stop a game and order people away from the pitch and if they refuse to go the game can be abandoned.
Now there is little from RU that i wish to come into league but i'd very much like to see this for junior grade. Ref should stop tell them to do one and if they refuse game finishes and awarded to oppostition.'"
A RL referee also has the power to do this.
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| Quote: rob_a "A RL referee also has the power to do this.'"
Yes, I've done it before. However it tends to just crank up the atmosphere a few more notches...
I have sympathy for touchline managers. They have enough trouble keeping their own people in check without having to handle aggressive idiots from the opposition, and possibly random individuals potentially unconnected with anybody.
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44411_1300461926.png Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well.
Iolo. My mum is dead actually
Thanks for that
Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png |
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| Quote: tim2 "Yes, I've done it before. However it tends to just crank up the atmosphere a few more notches...'"
So officials dont' use this power because they are afraid to up the ante?
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simpsons/simp032.gif I want the finest wines available to humanity - I want them here and I want them now!:simpsons/simp032.gif |
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "So officials dont' use this power because they are afraid to up the ante?'"
No, but you have to gauge carefully when and where to use it.
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44411_1300461926.png Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well.
Iolo. My mum is dead actually
Thanks for that
Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png |
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| In my opinion it should be used in anything U16. Zero tolerance simples
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "In the other code a ref can stop a game and order people away from the pitch and if they refuse to go the game can be abandoned.
Now there is little from RU that i wish to come into league but i'd very much like to see this for junior grade. Ref should stop tell them to do one and if they refuse game finishes and awarded to oppostition.'"
A colleague of mine took his son (age around 12 or so) to both the local League team and the Union team. He was appalled at the level of abuse from the touchline at the league game and the parents encouraging foul play on the pitch. That’s just one kid lost to our game, but it could well be many more
It needs to be resolved quickly
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "In my opinion it should be used in anything U16. Zero tolerance simples'"
Quite right.
Tim2 you shouldnt let people walk all over you.
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "In my opinion it should be used in anything U16. Zero tolerance simples'"
I agree. However all refs have to do it and all leagues have to back it up.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Quite right.
Tim2 you shouldnt let people walk all over you.'"
I'm not afraid to do it but once you start you are then expected to do the same to anybody from either side who says anything. You have enough to worry about on the field (remember player safety is paramount, not the ref's feelings).
It's very disconcerting when refs take a stand and then are not backed up by disciplinary action.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: tim2 "I agree. However all refs have to do it and all leagues have to back it up.'"
Man up a bit Tim.
If some parents give you a hard time use whatever powers are available to deal with it effectively.
If everyone in your position did then we wouldnt have the problems you have mentioned.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Man up a bit Tim.
If some parents give you a hard time use whatever powers are available to deal with it effectively.
If everyone in your position did then we wouldnt have the problems you have mentioned.'"
Perhaps you should give it a go. There is a shortage of refs!
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44411_1300461926.png Iolo wrote. You must be confusing me with jannerboyuk, [...] he is also crucrusaders and I strongly suspect he is traffic as well.
Iolo. My mum is dead actually
Thanks for that
Scooter Nik. Yeah right. Of course she is, probably turned up her toes in disgust at having spawned a prat like you:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44411.png |
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| Quote: tim2 "I'm not afraid to do it but once you start you are then expected to do the same to anybody from either side who says anything. You have enough to worry about on the field (remember player safety is paramount, not the ref's feelings). '"
Too bloody right you should do it to anyone on either side! as for safety surely people on touch line actively encouraging and praising foul play could cause a situation leading to a serious injury?
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: tim2 "Perhaps you should give it a go. There is a shortage of refs!'"
I'm too busy at weekends.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "I'm too busy at weekends.
Me too now. I'm going to be washing my hair. Even though I haven't got any.
I think you all make good points - I reached the point today where I knew I had to escalate it, dish out some cards and write up reports or think, sod it I can't be bothered. When you reach that point, it's time to stop.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Man up a bit Tim.
If some parents give you a hard time use whatever powers are available to deal with it effectively.
If everyone in your position did then we wouldnt have the problems you have mentioned.'"
That's easier to say than to do. I've been at U16 games in the past where the ref has been chased from the pitch by "fans"/coaches/players of one side. I've also seen U16 games where the ref has been in his changing room with players of 1 team attempting to break down the door, fortunately he managed to leg it to his car.
It all stems from an incredibly aggressive and intimidating atmosphere that is allowed to develop at some clubs and which is never adequately challenged and punished by BARLA.
On the VT we often talk about how we expand the player pool that we can pick from. Getting rid of the ridiculous, backward, pathetic scenes like these at all levels of the amateur game is the best way we could "expand" rugby league.
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