Agreed.

It's very important that summer rugby players remain conditioned to the perfect summer rugby experience, therefore England players should be given the day off from training today.

Training in inclement weather is an absolute NO NO!

It's the modern 21st century way to embrace such massive leaps forward in evolution and civilisation.

It was a 'meanlingless game' as it wasn't a fully sanctioned International, and less than 5000 people in the RL "heartlands" could be bothered to turn up.

Had they 'trounced' Italy people would still moan about the meaningless of the vicotory, and that Italy didn't deserve a place in the RLWC and that the competition was a joke, and England would still lose against Australia.

A big no hurrah for the average fan, but I would think that McNamara, and his players, have learnt a lot from it.

Where did I say that training in inclement weather is a "NO NO"? What conditions do you think they train in before and after the SA trip? All I'm suggesting is that it is beneficial to carve out time for quality ball work as part of an overall training programme.

It's a pretty simple strategy, thought even you would grasp it.

Learnt what ??? That they have to actually put effort in to win a game of RL ???

How can anyone defend us ??? We lost at RL to Italy ffs

Couldn't they have found an indoor training complex to use over here like St George's Park for example.

Why would they? Why do they need to avoid going to a training camp?

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Maybe - but given the rates on those places in the UK (and hotels), and the exchange rate with the Rand offering such value with the £, I doubt it would have constituted much of a saving.

Can't believe RL fans sometimes. If they'd gone off to a beach in Wales they would have been accused of 'doing it on the cheap, typical RFL being unprofessional', etc...

That meaningful that Tim Sheen also thinks its immensely vital to have a warm up game before the biggest tournament of his players' lives. Oh hang on....

Come on smokey I know you like to argue black is white but surely you must know there are plenty of quality training camps available in the UK

And why should they use one in the UK rather than elsewhere?

Or rather, why look elsewhere ???

No, Staying in England isnt the default position. If we stay in England it is because it is the best place to be. If it isnt, we dont. The same applies to South Africa, Timbuktu, Tierra Del Fuego, Newfoundland, Copenhagen and Tokyo.

Do all those destinations have high altitude roofs?

It's important to take roofs into account because Cardiff has one.

Hello, Mrs McNamara.