Kind of. But it wasn’t an [ientirely[/i serious point.

I’m imagining that SBW’s profile in majority Muslim cities like Samarkand, Isfahan, Lahore and Kuala Lumpur, for example, might not be super high.

Probably not but it would still be higher than Tom Johnstone or Kevin Brown. The fact that Muslims are even talking about rugby league should be celebrated

The bird rule has nothing to do with “developing” a player. The bird rule relates to a player who has played for your team for 3 years

rland we (almost) all agree Mr Hudgellrl

"As soon as they won promotion Brian McDermott starts calling half of us Luddites"

“What can any reasonable and rational person expect in terms of comeback when you are saying to someone who has been at a club 15 years and has ploughed in X amount of millions, that actually you shouldn’t be part of this party.

“What does he expect? I think he should get his feet under the table before getting on his soap box. The whole way they have taken this into the public arena has completely undermined the goodwill feeling their involvement generated on being promoted”

100% agree with Neil Hudgell. So that's Hull FC's and Hull KR's stance on TWP. What is the betting that another 9 SL clubs think exactly the same ?

This is all over this mornings RL press and apparently seven SL clubs are all saying the same thing about TWP in Unison.

Catalans as guests will keep out of it for sure, leaving only three English Superleague clubs shall we say "on the fence" Hetherington doesn't often agree with the top SL bosses and I assume Mr. Fulton will keep his usual low profile as will whoever chairs Salford.

So my bet is Lenegan, McManus, Davey, Pearson, Hudgell, Moran and Carter are all on the same wavelength on this, roughly the same gang who took on the RFL when they forced the Middle eights on the game but lost by a vote. Later this gang of SL bosses destroyed the RFL by splitting Superleague away from them, now these SL supremos will be planning for whom they will let in Superleague under the 2022 deal.

And it won't be TWP.

That's Hull off the itinerary list.

Never seen two guys that are so unwelcoming and hypocritical at the same time. That's what fear does to you as KR are odds on to be in the relegation battle.

Hudgell is only speaking out against Toronto to deflect their own inability to sign players to replace their injured.

What a load of nonsense, keep kneeling in front of the TWP dream machine.

Not true at all, a host of SL bosses are saying exactly the same thing that TWP must play to the rules. HKR are members of Superleague, Hudgell often speaks on their behalf, and TWP are just guests and largely unwanted ones at that, who now want special treatment.

I'll kindly ask, which part do you believe is nonsense?

Started with the N and finished at the .

It doesn't sound like you can carry on a worthy discussion with that comment.

That's ok though, you can keep your head buried in the sand.

His comment was correct. Your comment was "[iHudgell is only speaking out against Toronto to deflect their own inability to sign players to replace their injured".[/i

Your just another TWP apologist. It was TWP who spent all their salary cap on 23 players and that is the issue. Tough, they have to abide by the rules.

Pearson said they had [i"mismanaged their finances"[/i. Another chairman said [i"TWP do not have a hope of special treatment"[/i, another chairman said the[i"rules are in place[/i" and [iTWP didn't abide by them[/i. Another said there was [i"no hope they would be given any favours"[/i. Another comment was "[iYou can't change the salary cap rules at various stages"[/i. Another chairman said it was "[iTWP that chose to overpay players"[/i. another chairman refusing special treatment said [i"We had to loan out players to get under the cap last year"[/i

So what you posted was the usual apologist rubbish for this useless made up club. As for Neil Hudgell whose club is out on the far side of Hull, he himself suffers from trying to persuade players to go play there as it's so far away from the conurbations of west Yorkshire and East Lancashire. He has to pay extra and he runs a real life club not a phoney Canadian club who could not get rid of homegrown players quick enough - now they are begging Quin Ngwati to come back and play for tuppence.

And that's the real issue, players here don't want to go play for North American clubs, but will go if they are overpaid by enough money. TWP have themselves no player development system and never will have that, and TWP have a bunch of mercenaries and we all know SBW is just that and he'll be happy to just be paraded round and sat on the bench.

It's you who has your head in the sand........

Not a ball kicked until tomorrow and the arguments over "expansion" blaze across the RL press.

One editor declares TWP make us a [i"major and expanding player on the world sports stage"[/i by bringing the world to our door......

Another editor asks "[iDoes SL want a presence in North America,[/i which is [i"doing a great service"[/i for Rugby League here.......

That poll of fans on Humberside seems to say those who buy into Rugby League (and probably the papers the RL press produce) do not want a Transatlantic League, but to be fair neither editor takes their comments beyond a basic "we are better off with TWP" stance. Having said that neither editor appears to have published much at all in terms of real analysis of this so called "expansion".

It would be interesting to read learned opinion pieces about how we accommodate New York, Ottawa and Toulouse into Superleague to take this expansion further? How do we stock these clubs with quality players when these clubs don't contribute to the player development system? Who from here has to Follow London into the wilderness to make way? How can clubs on the up like Newcastle and Bradford get into Superleague if we are following the american dream?

Then when we have "expansion" will relegated London, Wakefield, Castleford or whoever alongside Widnes, Bulls and Newcastle bother to develop players when they would be shipped off to North America, a destination we now find out players have to be "persuaded" to go to with over inflated salaries?? Why should kids bother playing RL if that means their own local club has to be part time, whilst a career is only really available 3,000 miles away??

Catalans in 2006 and TWP in 2017 may have sold a lot of extra Monday RL papers, but it puzzles me why despite all the problems these two clubs face and the likely apathy they will bring to 80% of fans here, the RL press still trumpet the American dream, whilst the perpetrator sits behind a desk at Odsal plotting Bulls return to Superleague with Nigel Wood??