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Quote: JB Down Under "Still no word on who Hayne will turn out for. I am guessing Uate will be in Australias squad. Petro is def turning out for Fiji.



Hayne will be in the Kangaroo squad as he can play anywhere from Stand off to Fullback, he is consistently one of NSW best players.
I doubt Uate will make the cut, he has not done enough for NSW never mind the Test squad.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "You are wrong.

Matty Russell was born in Scotland, as was James McManus.

You do know there are rules on eligibility don't you? The rule isn't if you've been to the country or not.

It's not that uncommon for people from places like the north of England, which is very, very close to Scotland, to have parent or Grandparent from there, the same goes for Australia with the amout of people moving to the country within the last two generations.

But that doesn't fit your argument, which JB is owning you in by the way.'"


But do you understand how this merrygo round of players for the lower level countries every World Cup can hinder genuine player development in those countries?

That is the point he is making

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He's made lots of different points, but saying none of the Scotland squad are born in Scotland is wrong.

And yes, I do understand the point.

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How did you get off my ignore list by the way?

I don't remember doing that!

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "He's made lots of different points, but saying none of the Scotland squad are born in Scotland is wrong.

And yes, I do understand the point.'"


So you are ok for short term gratification to damage long term development?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "How did you get off my ignore list by the way?

I don't remember doing that!'"


Seriously, you have an ignore list? icon_lol.gif

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Not really a list.

List implies plurality.

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Quote: Starbug "So you are ok for short term gratification to damage long term development?'"


It depends on which outweighs the other. Personally I have zero problem with using the same eligibility criteria as every other sport, even if it means that the entry requirements that some disagree with are activated more often simply because RL is still an underdeveloped sport.

Structurally, there's nothing wrong with the rules that isn't wrong with other sports, and they cope just fine. That we have more heritage players is much more the product of the conservatism of the sport as a whole than failing to expose amateurs from developing nations. So from a long term point of view, I see nothing wrong there.

What is wrong is that there's only an incentive to trigger it every 4 years, and in the meantime neglect the good that a strong top level can have for junior's aspirations.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "How did you get off my ignore list by the way?

I don't remember doing that!'"


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Quote: Starbug "So you are ok for short term gratification to damage long term development?'"


Seriously? You don't think some kid in Fiji is more likely to take up playing the game due to getting excited watching Hayne et al make Fiji a competitive side in the World Cup as opposed to not seeing a Fiji amateur team made up of locals playing in some b grade comp that isn't shown on TV?

Reality is these countries are not going to have FT prof RL comps for decades, the hope is to see more kids take up the game, better development for those kids, get more of them playing in SL and NRL and have competitive international RL. Anything else is simply wishful thinking.

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Quote: JB Down Under "Seriously? You don't think some kid in Fiji is more likely to take up playing the game due to getting excited watching Hayne et al make Fiji a competitive side in the World Cup as opposed to not seeing a Fiji amateur team made up of locals playing in some b grade comp that isn't shown on TV?.'"


So some kid in Milan is going to watch Italy playing in the WC and see star man Craig Gower and think 'wow we really have similar backgrounds if he can do it I can' icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So some kid in Milan is going to watch Italy playing in the WC and see star man Craig Gower and think 'wow we really have similar backgrounds if he can do it I can'
Or he might just enjoy what he sees and decide he fancies having a go. How many kids across the world do you seriously think will be questioning player heritage whilst watching a game of sport??

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "So some kid in Milan is going to watch Italy playing in the WC and see star man Craig Gower and think 'wow we really have similar backgrounds if he can do it I can'
What on earth does someone's background have to do with someone wanting to play a sport or not icon_confused.gif

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Quote: Bovrick "What on earth does someone's background have to do with someone wanting to play a sport or not
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Quote: headhunter "The guy has already been made to look stupid multiple times on this thread, you'd think he would stop posting.'"


Why because I dare to state an opinion that's not the same as yours ???

Get out more mate, then you won't have to spend half your life defending a joke comp.

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