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Quote: FearTheVee "Why are people so frightened that we might lose?

It's better for England's development to be playing in games where we have to hit a high intensity to compete. I'd be very disappointed if we just rolled them over as the match wouldn't serve the purpose it is intended to serve.

If we get hammered, then we'll just have to find ways to step it up a gear in 2012.'"


Precisely.

The French offer no real opposition to us, and this will be more of a test. I certainly don't share the opinion of many that we'll get battered.

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



A lot depends on who will be coaching the so called 'All Stars'. You would have to suggest it will be an Aussie or a Kiwi. My money is on Shaun McRae.

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Justin Morgan, he's used to coaching a team of overseas players

(thought I'd get it in before Gutterboy!)

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



England v SL 'All Stars'

Marketed properly this could turn out to be a good yearly fixture. I'll certainly be supporting it anyway.

I'm excited.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "In what way would it facilitate change?'"

The next post probably sums it up a bit...

Quote: SmokeyTA "This is going to be embarassing for english RL, when the best England has to offer, is beaten by a rag tag team of Australian and NZ cast offs.
We should have kept the france game so when we beat them 70-0, we can wax lyrical about how england is on the up after beating a load of part timers with a sprinkle of Catalans players.'"

The attitude that we are a great team because we stuff the French every year.
If players struggle against this "made up team" (use what ever derogatory phrase you like, probably makes the situation worse for England if they struggle), then this attitude of us being "on the up" will go, and players might actually realise that they need to pull their fingers out if they want to compete against the stronger nations... or even to get selected at all.

Of course, if we stuff them (which I don't think we will at all), then we're back to square one with the "waxing lyrical". It might not make us beat the Aussies, but it will certainly help building a better attitude to it if the game is competitive.

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they are'nt gonna be called the "all stars" by the way....


they will be 'the Other nationalities'...playing in green jerseys....

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: roughyedspud "they are'nt gonna be called the "all stars" by the way....


they will be 'the Other nationalities'...playing in green jerseys....'"



Really?

I havent even read that this fixture is anything more than an idea yet.

Any links?

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Quote: roughyedspud "they are'nt gonna be called the "all stars" by the way....


they will be 'the Other nationalities'...playing in green jerseys....'"


What about the Barbarians?

Seems to be a concept that works well in RU.

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RLFans finest: [quote="Saint77777":3t42372l]Maguire was a black mark on RL in this country. Whilst coaches like Daniel Anderson and Brian McLennan won championships on the back of exciting Rugby league, Maguire set out to win at all costs, evident by the way Danny Maguire was seriously injured and laughed at on the floor by the wigan players as he writhed in agony. Then there has been the constant bending back of limbs, trying to seriously maim the opposition. Even Phil Clarke has jumped on the bandwagon with his disgusting comments about the Danny Maguire incident. I think its fitting that the 2 fairest teams in the comp, who have been on the receiving end of Wigans tactics should contest the Grand Final and make it a proper family day out instead of the knuckle dragging, salivating neanderthals from Wigan, that would pour into manchester on grand final day. I for one cant wait to mingle with the Leeds fans and have a beer with them, rather than having to watch my arms and legs, should wigan have got there.[/quote:3t42372l]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54062.gif



I think it could work really well. Hopefully it will be marketed properly by the RFL, and will hopefully serve as a competitive game for England.








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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Young Warrior "I think it could work really well. Hopefully it will be marketed properly by the RFL, and will hopefully serve as a competitive game for England.








PS: First Post, hi everybody

Get out while you still can Young Warrior. The masses on this forum will turn upon you and cast you into the pit for all eternity for talking such sense.

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RLFans finest: [quote="Saint77777":3t42372l]Maguire was a black mark on RL in this country. Whilst coaches like Daniel Anderson and Brian McLennan won championships on the back of exciting Rugby league, Maguire set out to win at all costs, evident by the way Danny Maguire was seriously injured and laughed at on the floor by the wigan players as he writhed in agony. Then there has been the constant bending back of limbs, trying to seriously maim the opposition. Even Phil Clarke has jumped on the bandwagon with his disgusting comments about the Danny Maguire incident. I think its fitting that the 2 fairest teams in the comp, who have been on the receiving end of Wigans tactics should contest the Grand Final and make it a proper family day out instead of the knuckle dragging, salivating neanderthals from Wigan, that would pour into manchester on grand final day. I for one cant wait to mingle with the Leeds fans and have a beer with them, rather than having to watch my arms and legs, should wigan have got there.[/quote:3t42372l]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54062.gif



Quote: PHIPPS "Get out while you still can Young Warrior. The masses on this forum will turn upon you and cast you into the pit for all eternity for talking such sense.'"


Meh, let them try.
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Young Warrior "Meh, let them try.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "The next post probably sums it up a bit...

The attitude that we are a great team because we stuff the French every year.
If players struggle against this "made up team" (use what ever derogatory phrase you like, probably makes the situation worse for England if they struggle), then this attitude of us being "on the up" will go, and players might actually realise that they need to pull their fingers out if they want to compete against the stronger nations... or even to get selected at all.

Of course, if we stuff them (which I don't think we will at all), then we're back to square one with the "waxing lyrical". It might not make us beat the Aussies, but it will certainly help building a better attitude to it if the game is competitive.'"

Aaahh, so you think the people in charge of our game have been lulled in to a false sense of security by our beating a france 2nd string in mid-season tests----repeatedly

But never learned from their mistake when we went on to be defeated by NZ and Australia------repeatedly

But when we play a contrived out of the many overseas players (mostly average) we have in this country players who could be bothered playing 13, and dont win easily, they will suddenly be shocked out of this complacency and improve. Unless of course we do win easily in which case the same complacency will be there.

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I'm in favour of the idea, hope its set up correctly though.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Aaahh, so you think the people in charge of our game have been lulled in to a false sense of security by our beating a france 2nd string in mid-season tests----repeatedly

But never learned from their mistake when we went on to be defeated by NZ and Australia------repeatedly

But when we play a contrived out of the many overseas players (mostly average) we have in this country players who could be bothered playing 13, and dont win easily, they will suddenly be shocked out of this complacency and improve. Unless of course we do win easily in which case the same complacency will be there.'"


I'm not quite sure what you are saying - do you think an overseas select would be a tougher game for England than France? That's all it boils down to - getting as intense a game as we can for England mid-season.

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