I overlooked the grand final. fair point. My only issue with it all was how quickly you was allowed to be a super league club whilst we were continually shafted whenever super league wanted something new. This does not mean I am anti Crusaders or anti expansion so please do not think I am. Expansion is great but all the news in the press is about your problems last year, being allowed to reinvent yourselves hundreds of miles away and all of Londons woes and pleas for help. But you are there so good luck and I do hope you make a good fist of being successful. I believe that missing out last time has helped us long term as we are now 100% ready not only to be a super league club but to be a super league club who can progress and challenge some bigger teams on a regular basis. I really do think we we can bring a lot to the division if we are lucky enough to get the golden ticket this time. And, in closing, a post where i am not a troll!! Progress made?!!!!

Well, aint you the king of the trolls.

For a start, if we get a place in SL we wont have been 'promoted'. We will have been given a place by a licence system. The word 'promotion' has absolutely no relevance to top flight British RL at the present time, or have you been living in a cave with the rest of the trolls?

it is still promotion. regardless of the method and process.

widnes are being supremely arrogant by basically saying we dont need to compete anymore!

this attitude has undermined the entire division.

this is not a troll just an opinion,

To be fair though I would imagine all Championship teams have subconsciously lost a little motivation since the traditional method of promotion was scrapped.

I've no doubt though that the Chemics will be ready and prepared when they rightfully get their spot back.

They never have before, why would they start now?

You sure?

It is truly sad if clubs like Haven do go to the wall because the chance to chase promotion was effectively taken away (if it is a direct cause of their problems).

But getting back on subject a bit, doesn't this whole thread just show what a pile of e this whole franchise thing is?
I don't see any evidence that it has improved SL, but there's plenty of evidence that it's damaging the Championship.

Just who the hell do you think you are to claim that we're being supremely arrogant and don't need to compete anymore?? It's small minded attitudes like yours that undermine the sport not us you fool!!

Look around you muppet, so many more people outside of Widnes are claiming we're a shoe in for SL in 2012 and you're calling us arrogant?? How dare you!!

We've had to operate to much lowered salary cap and have used over 40 players this season due to one of the worst injury crises I can remember. Added to which our coach has been on compassionate leave for much of the season due to personal tragedy. Yet we've still made the play offs and the NRC final!!! To say that we're sticking two fingers up at the Championship and lauding it up until 2012 is not only incredibly ignorant of you but utterly disrespectful. You know nothing of our club and you clearly know nothing of the system we're now operating under or the sport as a whole otherwise you wouldn't be spouting such idiotic crap on here.

I couldn't resist.

There's nowt going on playing wise until next week for us so mischief is my current game of choice