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| Quote: Wadski "Maybe that's how Wonga got the shirt sponsorship at the Bulls?
Or maybe that's how a Debt Collector became a director:
What happened to his "significant undisclosed sum"? Seems strange for a business man coming on board as a finance director would pay his own money into a business without a thorough check of the books first.
Let's not forget there were 2 other interested parties when the bulls were in trouble the first time around Omar Khan's bid was chosen as the preferred option, reportedly as it was the only one which would see the bulls continue to play at odsal. Were the football club not interested but with a view to moving home games to Valley Parade?
Who got Omar interested?
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| Quote: Him "1. The RFL most definitely is a private company.
2. What governing council? Why should it be consulted? Which members were disadvantaged?
3. The NRL are a good example of assisting one club over others. But why do you insist the RFL be like other governing bodies when RL isn't the same as other sports?
4. You keep saying that Bradford have had a far better deal, what deal? How much does it add up to? How much did other clubs assistance add up to? Including the mergers over the years. If you don't answer we'll assume you don't know and are therefore simply guessing that Bradford have had a better deal. Which is fine, but does make it seem both hypocritical and like you simply don't like Bradford.
5. Hang on, you think the owners/CEO's of the clubs think the RFL has been too bold and radical in its effectiveness in recent times? I think you haven't got a clue why the owners/CEO's are upset with the RFL leadership.'"
- The RFL is a governing body for RL with a clear role within the national sporting framework.
- You want to know who the Governing council are? Its called the RFL council. HTH
- Clubs not receiving £1m and finding ways of funding themselves or not getting a fair share of RFL money are disadvantaged.
- Several clubs have had advances of Sky money but non have had anything approaching the Odsal lease purchase. If you don't like that, tough.
- If you read my posts on here, no reason why you will have done so, you will see that my criticism is of RFL execs not Bulls staff and supporters.
- I am sure YOU will make your own conclusions re the reason 6 or more SL clubs are challenging the RFL executive. Back in the real world there is little doubt the owners are challenging the exec on corporate goverance.
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "The rfl is a company ... The World Cup was a company ... Super league is also a company ... FIFA is a company, the rfu is a company ... The only "governing bodies" are in fact governments ... Do you not understand how it works? If you need further convincing start here:
Your are clueless re sports governing bodies. Try a bit of research. Get hold of the RFL constitution then you may have a better idea. While you are at it check out the 'ownership' of the RFL and SLE..if you are interested in understanding RL.
The suggestion that the Bulls did not benefit from the money they received for Odsal is laughable.
Your suggestion wood and the execs cannot be preferring one club over another because wood supported fax is ridiculous.
The evidence that buying odsal is the best use of around £1m for RL is 'unavailable'.
Please do let me know of a sport governing bodies that bought the stadia / assets of some clubs but not others.
While the RFL were pumping huge amounts of money into the Bulls they were failing to retain millions of Sport England funding - their Governing role !!
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| Quote: Cripesginger "- The RFL is a governing body for RL with a clear role within the national sporting framework.
- You want to know who the Governing council are? Its called the RFL council. HTH
- Clubs not receiving £1m and finding ways of funding themselves or not getting a fair share of RFL money are disadvantaged.
- Several clubs have had advances of Sky money but non have had anything approaching the Odsal lease purchase. If you don't like that, tough.
- If you read my posts on here, no reason why you will have done so, you will see that my criticism is of RFL execs not Bulls staff and supporters.
- I am sure YOU will make your own conclusions re the reason 6 or more SL clubs are challenging the RFL executive. Back in the real world there is little doubt the owners are challenging the exec on corporate goverance.'"
1. So it is a private company?
2. Yes, thanks very much, everyone knew about the RFL Council already. They are different to a governing council. Do you know who is on the RFL council? Do you know what their remit is? When they have to be consulted? When a vote has to be taken? If you don't then it makes your statements irrelevant.
3. So which members were disadvantaged? Have they been disadvantaged in the past by other measures taken by the RFL in assisting clubs? Or only in this case?
4. You could have just said you haven't got a clue.
5. Why? Wouldn't you criticise Bulls staff? Its the Bulls staff that got them into this mess.
We know what the problems are (of the clubs), they've aired them. Not once did they mention Bradford or any other attempts to assist other clubs in this context. Their grievances are well known. The clubs are annoyed at the lack of commercial "nous" for want of a better word at the top of the RFL and the lack of direction. Nothing at all to do with the Bradford situation. But keep on making things up if it makes you happy. Or just keep saying the same things over and over without any evidence to back it up. You've been asked time and again for evidence of how much Bradford have benefitted compared to other clubs yet you can't provide it. It seems in your "real world" there's just you in it.
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| Everything is OK at Bradford Now.
After a day long meeting between all parties, the 3 amigos have been re-instated and are directing the company.....phew, I'm glad that's all over
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| Quote: Cripesginger "- The RFL is a governing body for RL with a clear role within the national sporting framework.
- You want to know who the Governing council are? Its called the RFL council. HTH
- Clubs not receiving £1m and finding ways of funding themselves or not getting a fair share of RFL money are disadvantaged.
- Several clubs have had advances of Sky money but non have had anything approaching the Odsal lease purchase. If you don't like that, tough.
- If you read my posts on here, no reason why you will have done so, you will see that my criticism is of RFL execs not Bulls staff and supporters.
- I am sure YOU will make your own conclusions re the reason 6 or more SL clubs are challenging the RFL executive. Back in the real world there is little doubt the owners are challenging the exec on corporate goverance.'"
Is the RFL council(which doesn't exist) anything like the RL council (which does exist) which is a different thing from the RFL?
You do realise that the RL council isn't the rfl, but the RFL, SL, chAmpionships and barla and the community game right? You understand that the RL council isn't just another name for the RFL board don't you, because you seem confused about it.
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| Based on this current farce, understandings by posters, the lack of positive news about anything RL since the World Cup, I am totally convinced that the game in this country has lot the plot in its current form.
Time for a total restructure from International level to Under 7's and a pro active system implementing.
Ah well I can only hope. At least Premier Sports and the NRL website etc keep my RL interest going
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Based on this current farce, understandings by posters, the lack of positive news about anything RL since the World Cup, I am totally convinced that the game in this country has lot the plot in its current form.
Tie for a total restructure from International level to Under 7's and a pro active system implementing.
Ah well I can only hope. At least Premier Sports and the NRL website etc keep my RL interest going'"
Going off topic a little, but what kind of system did you have in mind?
Not having a go by the way, genuine question.
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| Quote: Cripesginger "because wood supported fax'"
Jesus. I'd hate to see what he'd have done to us if he'd hated us!
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| Quote: Cripesginger "Your are clueless re sports governing bodies. Try a bit of research. Get hold of the RFL constitution then you may have a better idea. While you are at it check out the 'ownership' of the RFL and SLE..if you are interested in understanding RL.
The suggestion that the Bulls did not benefit from the money they received for Odsal is laughable.
Your suggestion wood and the execs cannot be preferring one club over another because wood supported fax is ridiculous.
The evidence that buying odsal is the best use of around £1m for RL is 'unavailable'.
Please do let me know of a sport governing bodies that bought the stadia / assets of some clubs but not others.
While the RFL were pumping huge amounts of money into the Bulls they were failing to retain millions of Sport England funding - their Governing role !!'"
... So you're denying that the rfl is a business ... Right. Are you a troll? It's beginning to feel that way ...
I've read the charter, I've read the rules. I've read the salary cap rules, heck, I've even read the most recent proposals report - none of it changes the fact it's a business. Run like a business. And should be so.
Well bradford announced administration 3 months after the lease had been bought - so it can't of done that much good can it?
I didn't say can't, I said there's no evidence to suggest - bit of a difference.
Rfls goal isn't to secure sport England funding. It isn't to ensure super league has a sponsor, it is I fact:
Mission Statement
The Rugby Football League is committed to managing, developing and promoting Rugby League in order to provide excellent, high quality customer services for the whole Rugby League family.
Okay, I'm saying this one more time: there is no evidence to suggest the rfl buying the lease to odsal is them showing preference to any other team that has had financial difficulty. It has been done in the past for clubs in financial difficulty, and should the need rise again, and another club OFFER the rfl a lease to a stadium, there is no evidence to suggest the rfl won't continue with this precendent.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Based on this current farce, understandings by posters, the lack of positive news about anything RL since the World Cup, I am totally convinced that the game in this country has lot the plot in its current form.
Tie for a total restructure from International level to Under 7's and a pro active system implementing.
Ah well I can only hope. At least Premier Sports and the NRL website etc keep my RL interest going'"
Agreed an overhaul of the whole system is needed the problem is under 7s and international team fall under two different governing bodies - we're never going to have a coherent system while that's the case
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Ok it's way off topic, but there is a certain answer about the RFL being a company.
Scroll to the bottom of this page.
www.therfl.co.uk/contact_us/answers
The Rugby Football League Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 3845473. The registered address is Red Hall, Red Hall Lane, Leeds, LS17 8NB. The VAT Registration Number of The Rugby Football League Limited is 168 8110 49
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Ok it's way off topic, but there is a certain answer about the RFL being a company.
Scroll to the bottom of this page.
www.therfl.co.uk/contact_us/answers
The Rugby Football League Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 3845473. The registered address is Red Hall, Red Hall Lane, Leeds, LS17 8NB. The VAT Registration Number of The Rugby Football League Limited is 168 8110 49
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