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| No,it SLE problem to increase the number of sl standard players and as a consequence,international standard players.
Its up to the championship clubs to produce championship standard players and if any of those players prove good enough then they can step up to sl,especially now that sky funding is being cut even more to the championship clubs.
I said invite new club not invent them. The clubs might already be out there,scolers,gateshead,sws, there are a number of clubs in yorkshire that might see there future as feeder clubs.Just remember these are issues for SLE and not championship problems.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "You still haven't said why, you've just sad it would remove credibility.
Surely if the stream of players is constant, then clubs won't be strengthened and weakened over a short period of time? They'd be constantly strengthened.
It would be competitive. Why wouldn't it be?
everything.'"
But the stream of players wouldn't be constant , one week you could have 7 , next week 2 , it couldn't be constant if every club wasn't a feeder club , as then some clubs could have 7 full time SL veterans playing for them , and other teams wouldn't have any , who would have SWS as a feeder club ? , so players are going to train full time in Lancashire/Yorkshire , then also train at night 150 miles away ? , Gateshead maybe ? , so clubs that are already getting hammered week on week would be playing even stronger teams ?
That's why it wouldn't be competitive
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "
Why does that mean it's on it's knees? There are only 4 Championship teams in "Lancashire". Half of them are in the top tier. There could have been more Cumbrian clubs if it wasn't for cheating, a different final result and a lack of poor financial planning. The rest are expansion sides. It's not really surprising that the top league is majority Yorkshire considering 9/20 CC sides are from Yorkshire.
And if players are being released and getting less money, then surely having free players would ease the burden and allow other players to get paid more?
everything.'"
No comment on us losing our biggest club , with the replacement being Crusaders , the SL equivalent of losing W1g4n and gaining Leigh , we are to receive less money from central funding than in the past , our TV coverage will be on a channel with less profile ,
More players being released is a sign of clubs struggling , almost all clubs are stating they will be spending less this year than last , many are stating sponsorship is getting harder to find and they are getting less money for it
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| Quote: Starbug "No comment on us losing our biggest club , with the replacement being Crusaders , the SL equivalent of losing W1g4n and gaining Leigh , we are to receive less money from central funding than in the past , our TV coverage will be on a channel with less profile , '"
Newsflash fella, that can happen when your not in the top league. The FL Championship lost Newcastle and gained Burnley, Portsmouth (administration) and Hull City. Was the FL Championship on its knees last year?
The best go to the top. I don't get why you think anything different should happen? It wasn't worth commenting on.
And the TV comment is massively contradictory to what you've been saying in the past. You were saying that people wouldn't go to games because they'd watch it on TV, so it wasn't worth having on. Surely having TV coverage with less profile is better in your opinion as less would watch on TV and more would go to the game? You can't have it both ways.
Quote: Starbug "More players being released is a sign of clubs struggling , almost all clubs are stating they will be spending less this year than last , many are stating sponsorship is getting harder to find and they are getting less money for it'"
That's a sign of the times unfortunately, it's not exclusive to RL. Clubs are gonna have to cut their cloth accordingly like in any walk of life. It doesn't mean it's on it's knees.
It's just needless cynicism. You're not happy unless you're complaining about something, even if it contradicts other points.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Newsflash fella, that can happen when your not in the top league. The FL Championship lost Newcastle and gained Burnley, Portsmouth (administration) and Hull City. Was the FL Championship on its knees last year?
The best go to the top. I don't get why you think anything different should happen? It wasn't worth commenting on.
It's just needless cynicism. You're not happy unless you're complaining about something, even if it contradicts other points.'"
Yes , but the previous year the FL gained Newcastle
They have 20 odd home games a year , we have 9
You try running a club on 9 games a year
And yes I totally disagree with Championship RL on TV for free , I'd rather we didn't have any , Thursday nights kill crowds , so why continue at all with it , with the move to Premier Sports even the argument about extra sponsorship for the local night club or builders merchant goes out the window
You are very selective in which parts of other peoples posts you respond to , very ' smokeyish ' , so keep it up , then everybody can think your a as well
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| No need for feeder clubs. What about agreements between local SL and NL clubs saying we will loan out promising youngsters to them for a certain amount of time during that season. Nothing that will hinder the progression of the NL team or harm any possible SL application for them. For example Wigan - Leigh, Hull - York or Wakey/Cas - Batley. Does not even have to be that local. I personally think it helps out young players of SL teams playing in NL where they will learn loads and add potential quality to the NL team.
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| Quote: Richard1 "No need for feeder clubs. What about agreements between local SL and NL clubs saying we will loan out promising youngsters to them for a certain amount of time during that season. Nothing that will hinder the progression of the NL team or harm any possible SL application for them. For example Wigan - Leigh, Hull - York or Wakey/Cas - Batley. Does not even have to be that local. I personally think it helps out young players of SL teams playing in NL where they will learn loads and add potential quality to the NL team.'"
This system is already in place its called dual register/contract.There are 4 players involved in this deal and thats enough.
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| Some clubs need to send a few more young players out then. Not sure of numbers but iam sure some clubs dont use it as much as they could (which would be developmently beneficial to them instead of putting out their strongest team in the reserves). Because they will learn more in NL than in the reserves in my opinion.
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| Quote: Richard1 "Some clubs need to send a few more young players out then. Not sure of numbers but iam sure some clubs dont use it as much as they could (which would be developmently beneficial to them instead of putting out their strongest team in the reserves). Because they will learn more in NL than in the reserves in my opinion.'"
These clubs choose not to use this system,whats the problem?
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| Quote: j.c "These clubs choose not to use this system,whats the problem?'"
It should be used more by SL clubs instead of fielding the strongest reserve team in my opinion. A young player would learn more in NL and become more rugby intelligent playing there which would benefit the SL club more in the long run than playing a player exclusively in the reserves. It takes u21s out of their comfort zones playing NL against intelligent ex SL players/wily veterans and brings the players game on more than playing against less experienced reserve players. In a nutshell i think it is underused.
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| Quote: Richard1 "It should be used more by SL clubs instead of fielding the strongest reserve team in my opinion. A young player would learn more in NL and become more rugby intelligent playing there which would benefit the SL club more in the long run than playing a player exclusively in the reserves. It takes u21s out of their comfort zones playing NL against intelligent ex SL players/wily veterans and brings the players game on more than playing against less experienced reserve players. In a nutshell i think it is underused.'"
Its got nothing to do with the SL clubs.If some of the CC clubs choose to use this system upto a maximum of 4 players then thats up to them,If other CC clubs choose not to use this system then thats up to them.
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| Quote: Starbug "Yes , but the previous year the FL gained Newcastle
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