I'm not using Lui to defend Kelly, two completely different situations. Just pointing out that it's massive double standards if he goes along and cheers for Lui whilst condemning Kelly for something very trivial in comparison.

That’s a very worrying thing to say ,infact it’s very concerning . Why would you like your daughter to be called a slut ?

What a strange thing to say whether you have a daughter or not, it’s probably a good thing you don’t have one ,

The RFL are in contact with Hull FC regarding Kelly verbally abusing and using threatening behaviour towards that young girl .

All I'm saying everyone is giving Albert a lot of stick and there is ALWAYS two sides to a story, I'm presuming he wasn't drinking Stella though cause he didn't swing any

It’s arguably a narrow distinction, but the criticism is, or should be, of Kelly’s actions in this situation. He’s responsible for them, of course, but it’s perfectly reasonable to admire one set of actions by a person and to dislike or disapprove of another.

Kelly doesn’t need to blamed for his very existence, and it’s not the case that after this nobody can ever again enjoy or admire anything he ever does again - we’re a long way from that. Also, it’s true that other people have done bad things and been allowed to move on. But, when they’re caught at least, there is typically punishment and approbation first. Ideally it should be proportionate, and that is a subjective judgement - I think, based on what’s in the public domain, some has been excessive, and some people are being very lenient.

I think as well that in the era of Trump and #MeToo, people are much more aware of things like Whataboutism and victim-blaming. It’s not new, and it is not limited to any one group of people or set of fans, but it is more obvious nowadays. We know next to nothing about the woman he abuses, and yet there’s been speculation about her being the the instigator, and the possibility of her racist or other provocation. Because ‘we all know what they are like, don’t we?’

Bit of a useless point to try and make considering he isn't going to be in court for this.

ITT: Hull fc fans defending Albert Kelly.

Obviously this sort of behaviour is common place up in Ull. Women know their place up there thats for sure!

Regards

King James

No it`s not a useless point at all, i was responding to Trinity18 saying "We`ve all been there" referring to been drunk is now an excuse to act like that. Been under the influence of alcohol should never be used as an excuse.

Are you not aware that making physical threats is a crime?

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Feel free to come up and fight one of them.
They'll put you on the concrete.

Actually, after a rethink, [iin[/i it would be better.