The most tragic thing about tonight is how eager 'fans of the sport' were lining up to knock it before kick off......must suck being so negative and pessimistic .....oops sorry there here to 'help' the sport because they 'care' more about it!

The only positive I can find from last night's game is that it helped me avoid watching Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys

I was that bored I turned it it off to watch Mrs Browns boys that was far more entertaining.

I've had root canal work done that was more entertaining than either Miranda or Mrs Brown's Boys

I'd have gone if it was free. Probably.

He did play well, Still don't think he's a test 6. 13 yes and he does have to play as we have no kicker. But none of our tries were anything that we created from good attacking play. 2 of them were from exiles mistakes, and one where Sinfield picked the ball up and went through a 10m gap was Amateurish from the exiles. Take those 3 tries out and we have scored the same amount of points as a disinterested exiles. The half back situation is still a concern as it created very little. Myler Chase Sinfield didnt create much as a half back combination. But Sinfield does need to play as we've no kicker. Just got to hope we can click and create something.

Pleased with how we defended but again we have a lapse in concentration and conceded two tries. Play who you want at half back, we will never beat the Aussies if we continue to do this.

Thought Cudjoe was our best player in a poor game played at low intensity agains t opposition that only had to go up to 1st gear to give us a game !.

Tomkins looked impressive with ball in hand, Sinfield did ok too and we definitely seemed to lack some direction in the 2nd half.

But i cannot for the life of me see what JJB, Westwood, Hardaker(esp at centre) and Ellis offered that team last night !

To be fair to JJB he was the top tackler and looked busy all night (Sinfield was second highest tackler in the first half) having said that when we get the NRL players in I don't think JJB will make the team against the Aussies.

Reading Headhunter's posts on this thread and you can't even hint at an ounce of fishing, he genuinely believes his diatribe views!!

Westwood by his own standards is below par this season
JJB, Sinfield and Burrow should be nowhere near an England shirt.
Ellis never seems to bring his A game to England
Hardaker maybe in a few years.

You think that England strolling to victory against a contrived team of half-hearted overseas players in front of 7,000 people is good for either England or the sport?

I rarely agree with angry Headhunter but he does have a point.

Agree Westwood is below par but hopefully he can play his way into the form we know he can produce for the WC.Hardaker is not a centre by trade and probably should not have played there last night, but is a player i would consider for the squad as he can cover all across the backline.

JJB imo should not be in the 17 come the WC,and i dont think he will be but he will be a very useful squad player.Sinfield is skipper so will obviously play but thought he went well last night until his injury and using him as hooker for periods in games seems to work well for England.Burrow should also get a squad place but only used as an option off the bench as nobody else brings the kind of impact he can when players are tiring. Ellis,if fit, is a nailed on starter as he is someone who will command respect from NZ and Aus and has proved he can mix it with their best although you are correct in that he is yet to produce a stand out England display.Hopefully he is saving it for this winter.

Ellis hasn't shown anything this season or in that game to justify his selection, yes he has missed a lot of the season but we can't pick players cos they used to be good