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| Quote: SmokeyTA "not solely to buy better players and better coaching staff,
they would be looking at younger SL quality players, and players with the potential to be.
There would also be the many other things i have listed you seem to have struggled to comprehend'"
So not just players , but mostly players , thats how it works [ unless of course the RFL were giving and controling the money ] and then what after that , what would you spend the money on , exactly ?
Younger SL quality players , but the SL clubs need these players , they arent going to let another club have them , or do you mean players not good enough for the SL clubs ? , ie Championship players , aah , players with ' potential ' you mean academy players ?
You havent ' listed ' anything ? , thats what I keep asking you for
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| Quote: Starbug "You said SL quality juniors , they are not SL quality players , or they would be playing IN SL , you mean academy players , dual reg type players , any more than 5/6 and you'd be risking relegation '" Thank you for trying to tell me what i mean. Im happy i already knew what i meant. By SL quality youngsters, I meant youngsters capable of playing in SL.
Quote: Starbug "Look it's no good just saying " I'v already told you , or look at the last page " , what FACILITIES , exactly ?
Grass , balls , shirts , boots , what , exactly , drugs maybe , tell us right now what the facilities are different in SL than in the Championships ? , what are these facilities that make a RL player a SL player rather than a Championship player ?'" I have told you, exactly. Why bother telling you again? you clearly struggle to understand, and im not sure I can make, what is basically a list, any simpler.
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| Quote: Starbug "So not just players , but mostly players , thats how it works [ unless of course the RFL were giving and controling the money ] and then what after that , what would you spend the money on , exactly ?'" Is it? why exactly is that how it works for a club guaranteed a place in SL in 2/3 years?
What possible reason could they have to spend all their money on players when their promotion isnt dependent on their on field performance.
Quote: Starbug "Younger SL quality players , but the SL clubs need these players , they arent going to let another club have them , or do you mean players not good enough for the SL clubs ? , ie Championship players , aah , players with ' potential ' you mean academy players ? '" I mean players who can play at SL level. Hence my calling them SL quality players. Again, a fairly simple concept.
Quote: Starbug "You havent ' listed ' anything ? , thats what I keep asking you for'" you mean a list of things like this Quote: Starbug "
By building a squad of young talented players, and giving them experience, bedding in an SL quality coaching, sales and commercial staff, spending two or three years chasing sponsors, selling tickets, selling corporates, selling the clubs, building interest, building visibility, building player pathways and an academy,'"
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Thank you for trying to tell me what i mean. Im happy i already knew what i meant. By SL quality youngsters, I meant youngsters capable of playing in SL.
I have told you, exactly. Why bother telling you again? you clearly struggle to understand, and im not sure I can make, what is basically a list, any simpler.'"
So players capable of playing in SL , so SL players then , and you pay these SL capable players what , Championship wages ? , also you aquire these players from where exactly ? , SL clubs ? , so SL clubs are going to give you SL capable players for nothing , players they have invested time and money in , Er NO
You havent given a list , that is what I am asking for
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| Quote: Starbug "So players capable of playing in SL , so SL players then , and you pay these SL capable players what , Championship wages ? , also you aquire these players from where exactly ? , SL clubs ? , so SL clubs are going to give you SL capable players for nothing , players they have invested time and money in , Er NO '" They build a team, the same time way every promoted club builds a team, however they have more time to do so, so dont have to rely on so many overseas players like HKA, and they can also take more time to take more risks on more players with the potential to be SL players.
I have no idea why you have no idiotically decided that it is harder to build a side in 2/3 years than it is in a matter of months. It is mental.
Quote: Starbug "You havent given a list , that is what I am asking for'" you mean other than the the one directly above
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Is it? why exactly is that how it works for a club guaranteed a place in SL in 2/3 years?
What possible reason could they have to spend all their money on players when their promotion isnt dependent on their on field performance.
I mean players who can play at SL level. Hence my calling them SL quality players. Again, a fairly simple concept.
you mean a list of things like this '"
It does , because if they dont get the best they can the coach will get sacked , 3 yesr contract or not
SL players again , but playing for Championship wages , no
That isn't a list of the ' facilities ' you mentioned , not like you to attempt to change the subject because you dont have an answer
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "They build a team, the same time way every promoted club builds a team, however they have more time to do so, so dont have to rely on so many overseas players like HKA, and they can also take more time to take more risks on more players with the potential to be SL players.
I have no idea why you have no idiotically decided that it is harder to build a side in 2/3 years than it is in a matter of months. It is mental.
you mean other than the the one directly above'"
The risk is you get relegated , you havent answered a single ' question ' because there isn't an answer , if you put a club in the Championships on SL money to prepare , you stuff up the Championship , if you dont give them the money , they cannot prepare simple as
And the only ' facility ' that will improve a player is ' time ' , time spent training and being trained by top quality coaches , that require full time training , that requires money , lots of it , so the only facility you need is money
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| Quote: Starbug "It does , because if they dont get the best they can the coach will get sacked , 3 yesr contract or not '" well its nice that you have prejudged somebody else's opinion without asking it rather than just me. But you still havent explained the logic of giving a manager the aim of building players ready for SL with actual results as secondary, and then sacking them for meeting their aim.
Quote: Starbug "SL players again , but playing for Championship wages '" no,
Quote: Starbug "That isn't a list of the ' facilities ' you mentioned , not like you to attempt to change the subject because you dont have an answer
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