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| Bradford Bulls are to the credibility of licensing what Leeds Rhinos are to the credibility of a Top 8 play-off system.
Both clubs are owed a huge debt of gratitude 
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"You weren't doing too bad, but then you disgracefully plunged into that =#FF0000slanderous nonsense. '"
Libellous nonsense.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The only thing which cannot be allowed to happen is for the people of bradford to be left without a club, and a kids of bradford left without a pathway.
The idea that the most important thing is that whoever tries to rescue the situation is in someway punished for the actions of others is unbelievably petty and illogical.'"
That simply won't happen (be without a club) at least in the medium to long-term. A good lesson for the youngsters of Bradford seeing you bring them up.
"Dad, dad! Why do we no longer have a club?"
"Because, son, there was too much being spent on the never-never and living far beyond their means, relying on special treatment and making promises that were never kept. They got away with it for years but now its us that suffer."
"Oh."
"Now let that be a lesson to you."
See, there's always a silver lining.
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| Quote mapleyther="mapleyther"That simply won't happen (be without a club) at least in the medium to long-term. A good lesson for the youngsters of Bradford seeing you bring them up.
"Dad, dad! Why do we no longer have a club?"
"Because, son, there was too much being spent on the never-never and living far beyond their means, relying on special treatment and making promises that were never kept. They got away with it for years but now its us that suffer."
"Oh."
"Now let that be a lesson to you."
See, there's always a silver lining.'"
You don't read the Bradford board do you.
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| Quote mapleyther="mapleyther"See, there's always a silver lining.'"
I am sure if there actually was a silver lining at Bradford, Wakefield's fans would write to the RFL asking how Bradford could afford it, as they weren't allowed a silver lining when they went into administration!
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Who are you all blaming today?'"
Exactement. Of course we are talking about regulatory ramifications. You can think of it as "punishment" or you can think of it simply as a consequence. There are always consequences of delinquent actions - whether it affects the people responsible or someone else - that's life. You cannot simply ignore them or try to airbrush them all out...if you were going to do that, you would have to somehow adjust the scorelines of matches in the last few years where Bradford gained a competitive advantage by playing players who were better than they could afford.
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"You don't read the Bradford board do you.'"
Of course not! There's plenty of ridiculous twaddle on here already to keep me going for a while yet. 
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| Quote mapleyther="mapleyther"Exactement. Of course we are talking about regulatory ramifications. You can think of it as "punishment" or you can think of it simply as a consequence. There are always consequences of delinquent actions - whether it affects the people responsible or someone else - that's life. You cannot simply ignore them or try to airbrush them all out...if you were going to do that, you would have to somehow adjust the scorelines of matches in the last few years where Bradford gained a competitive advantage by playing players who were better than they could afford.'"
Which would have zero effect retrospectively on the sponsors they where able to gain the players who were more attracted by the side finishing higher.
If they had gone into admin prior to the end of last year they could have done all this last year.
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| Quote mapleyther="mapleyther"Of course not! There's plenty of ridiculous twaddle on here already to keep me going for a while yet.
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Suffice to say, that wouldn't be the response the little boy got 
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"While I agree it's probably hypocritical of Franny to say the vultures are circling as we did the same thing on our pomp, you can hardly blame him for doing everything in his power to keep hold of the squad. The marquee signing hasgone, our star half back has gone. After our 17 we virtually have kids. We are in special measures so can't sign anyone. Losing even more would be a disaster.'"
I dont remember you been so even handed about Kopczak !
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"I dont remember you been so even handed about Kopczak !'"
True...but then again, Bradford are Iconic!
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"
As for who has the 6 points deducted, I feel the name smoke and mirrors should be applied rather than just plain smokey.
The 6 points is deducted from the Bradford Bulls on the sporting side. Who ever is the owner of the Bulls carries that forwards. Currently the administrator.
The 6 points is a sporting penalty nothing more or less it has nothing to do with who owns the venture, just to do with gaining an unfair sporting advantage the same as fielding 14 players or passing the ball forwards.
It has been widly accepted in most sports, only some Bradford fans have argued that they should be treated differently to the rest of the sporting world. I think this is due to some ingrained belief that their place at the top table is sacred.'"
I think you may have hit on something there.
The points deduction should be a sporting penalty, applicable when a team goes into administration.
Action: go into admin, Sporting consequence: deducted 6 points.
Simples! (HOUSE!  )
The problem arose when the RFL (trying to be nice?) allowed the sanction to be reduced for Crusaders agreeing to pay back creditors, thus mixing business and sporting 'punishments'.
The emphasis should be on preventing the business side from ending up in such a situation rather than trying to fudge a solution with the new owners.
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