And had Ben Flower not had his brain fart then Wigan would’ve won that final comfortably.

Quite damning for Saints as a ‘big club’ that since their last final appearance 7 of 12 SL clubs have reached one of the 2 major finals with Saints being in the same company as Salford, Wakefield, Hudds and London as having not done so.

Yes but were not big clubs, so it's only to be expected

All predictions are fine until injuries determine the actual positions where they will finish. So there.

Cas
Wire
Saints
Wakey
Wigan
Hull FC
Catalans
Huddersfield
Leeds
Hull KR
Salford
London

Your point being what? You’re implying that 7 clubs are ahead of Saints in that time period when 3 of them have won the same amount of finals as Saints in that time: 0. Therefore 8 SL sides have won nothing (apart from LLS) in the last 4 seasons. Getting to a final and then losing it is not success or an achievement to be proud of. One of those teams with that zero next to their name from 2015 onwards has had the biggest budget in the league in that time as well.

Nonsense. Better to win the finals, but most fans would agree losing in the semi-finals in the worst outcome. Also, financially, there is a great deal of success from getting to finals, win or lose.

I've always thought getting to a Grand final is a great achievement for both teams, losing one is one of the greatest dissapointments in a players career, winning one is the ultimate success for a players career, you could also say the same thing from the spectators perspective.

Getting to Grand Finals with a zero success rate however must be one of the most depressing situations to get that "monkey off your back". If Warrington eventually win one then I will be one of the first to congratulate them up until then we will always take the mickey out of them Being there Year.

Unless you are Catalans

Saints

Wire
Hull FC
Cas
Wakey
Wigan
Catalans
Leeds
Salford
Hudds
Hull KR
London

Nothing particularly prophetic about predictions for 1st and last.

Hull will be flying under the radar after their horrendous finish to last season but still think they have far too much quality to be outside the top 4 or 5. Cas & Wakey have good settled squads and will lead the way for "the dark side".

Could be a transitional year for Wigan with the departure of some big names and a new coach but it's Wigan so they'll still comfortably finish in the tiop 8.

Despite a couple of well known NRL recruits I'm still not convinced Leeds can mount any sort of serious challenge in the league/play offs. Moon will be a big loss for them. As for Catalans, it'll be the usual mixture of utter brilliance and total ineptness but if they can get their act together consistently then they could be genuine top 4 challengers.

As for 9,10 & 11 it's a tough call. Personal.bias and massive faith in our spine means I'm tipping Salford to finish "best of the rest". Whilst we lack serious pace in the backline and our pack has been weakened by the loss of Kopczak & Tasi, our 6,7 & 9 are top quality and this should produce some decent ball for the likes of Sa'u & Evalds to have bumper (by Salford standards) try-scoring seasons.

No idea how the playoffs or Cup will go and cba guessing.

But my prediction on standings as followed


Warrington
Saints
Cas
Wakey
Leeds
Hull
KR (really like their side)
Wigan (lost some big characters)
Catalans (same old inconsistencies)
Salford
Huddersfield
London

1 Wire
2 Wakey
3 Whinos
4 Cas
5 Cats
6 Dull
7 Saints
8 Giants
9 Pies
10 Salford
11 KR
12 London

Even Catalans. There's the prize money for a start with, the opportunity to build fan base on the back of success, extra merch sales etc etc. Plus, in their case, what should be a good pay day at the Camp Nou.