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Please FFS can Billy and Gutterfax, take a break from RLfans to let others have a decent conversation?

So what it some fans want to blow smoke up their own s to make themselves feel better.
So what if people want to slag off another sport and compare it to ours whether correct or not.
Most people are aware that what they post isn't always 100% bang on the money with cast iron evidence to back it up but most people who read it also know that and don't argue the toss about it.
No amount of arguing and producing stats will change anything apart from peoples perceptions of you.
So please for everyone's sanity, give it a rest.
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Please FFS can Billy and Gutterfax, take a break from RLfans to let others have a decent conversation?

So what it some fans want to blow smoke up their own s to make themselves feel better.
So what if people want to slag off another sport and compare it to ours whether correct or not.
Most people are aware that what they post isn't always 100% bang on the money with cast iron evidence to back it up but most people who read it also know that and don't argue the toss about it.
No amount of arguing and producing stats will change anything apart from peoples perceptions of you.
So please for everyone's sanity, give it a rest.'"

About 5 pages back I attempted to get this thread back.on topic......if you're going to whine like a girl, then whine about the posters who have made no reference at all to the subject matter.......
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Quote: gutterfax "About 5 pages back I attempted to get this thread back.on topic......if you're going to whine like a girl, then whine about the posters who have made no reference at all to the subject matter.......'"



But it would never have gone off topic if you hadn't have taken the bait on offer and went into one (like a child btw). FWIW I agree with most of what you post but you regurgitating it isn't going to change anything.
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "But it would never have gone off topic if you hadn't have taken the bait on offer and went into one (like a child btw). FWIW I agree with most of what you post but you regurgitating it isn't going to change anything.'"

As I say......i attempted to get it back on topic. Have a pop at loiner81.......gmhes the one attacking billy here and on the Ladbrokes thread
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Quote: loiner81 "Oh, he quoted the wrong year. How daft. :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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Quote: SmokeyTA "Bit weird.'"


Just a bit, the guy's off his nut.
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Quote: William Eve "Ok, it does appear that Him and moonie81 have done a runner with their tails between their legs. Perhaps they've finally discovered their embarrassing error? My dearest William, indeed I did quote the wrong figure. However what you deliberately missed off was the comparison to just 5 days worth of English Football. That was the comparison, since the Union Moonies were happily slagging off the far, far bigger code of football.

But if you want a comparison to the AP then here are the stats compiled in your terms (double headers etc attendances spread across the number of games


2013 SL regular round cumulative (incl Magic Weekend) - 1,619,701
2012/13 AP regular round cumulative - 1,506,196

2013 SL cumulative incl playoffs - 1,759,951
2012/13 AP cumulative incl playoffs - 1,618,140

2014 SL regular round cumulative - 1,540,332
2013/14 AP regular round cumulative - 1,554,641

2014 SL cumulative incl playoffs - 1,677,825
2013/14 AP cumulative incl playoffs - 1,644,978


Here are the figures using the what now seems accepted way of compiling attendances and is the way the AP use to compile them (using double header etc attendances for each match):

2013 SL regular round cumulative - 1,774,578
2012/13 AP regular round cumulative - 1,569,298

2013 SL cumulative incl playoffs - 1,914,828
2012/13 AP cumulative incl playoffs - 1,681,242

2014 SL regular round cumulative - 1,716,015
2013/14 AP regular round cumulative - 1,617,278

2014 SL SL cumulative incl playoffs - 1,843,508
2013/14 AP cumulative incl playoffs - 1,721,924


Whichever way you want to compile them, there you go.

Which wasn't the point anyway, feel free to find where I've slagged off or belittled Union for it's attendances. I haven't. I even said on whichever thread it was where media was discussed that I believe domestic Union deserves more recognition.

The point was that when people criticised rugby union ON THE FIELD they were met with a response quoting attendances. Then the main culprit criticised football which, as the stats I quoted for the 2 codes of rugby show, comprehensively craps all over any other sport in terms of attendances.

So which measure of compiling attendances would you prefer? Spreading multi-game attendances across each game (ie the method you used) or giving each game at the event the same, full, attendance (the method the Aviva Premiership uses)?
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: Him "The point was that when people criticised rugby union ON THE FIELD they were met with a response quoting attendances.'"

Alas, it is a simplified world you live in buddy. If the constant references to Union were purely about the slow ponderous nature of the game, then I have no doubt that everyone, even Billy with his 10 minute loo-break experience, would agree.
Unfortunately, the references to Union are usually delivered as a barb towards the game in general and anyone stupid enough to watch it, never mind pay to watch it. There is a train of thought on here, displayed by many posters, that surely the 70,000,000+ who watch the 6 nations, or the 1,000,000+ who attend the 6 Nations, or the millions who attend world cups or the 4 billion viewers curtain.gif are all brain dead sheep because they do so. It is then also claimed that there is an orchestrated campaign in the media to promote the other code to these sheep in the hope of increasing the size of the herd, whilst ensuring that RL is ignored.

I suspect if RLFANS.COM sold it's own branded range of tin-foil hats, they's sell quite well on here!
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Quote: him " Then the main culprit criticised football which, as the stats I quoted for the 2 codes of rugby show, comprehensively craps all over any other sport in terms of attendances. ?'"


Thats funny, I've just re-read this thread and no-one criticised football and certainly not me, you shoe-horned it into the debate because you were losing the argument. Anyone who goes back to page 7 onwards can see what you have done. What sort of saddo makes things up what other posters have said and then argues against those points? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Maybe as you keep accusing me of criticising football you can provide the evidence that i have to every single member of this forum? Because if you can't, what little credibility you have left will be gone d040.gif
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Quote: galliant "Thats funny, I've just re-read this thread and no-one criticised football and certainly not me, you shoe-horned it into the debate because you were losing the argument. Anyone who goes back to page 7 onwards can see what you have done. What sort of saddo makes things up what other posters have said and then argues against those points? Lol. It very much went over your head didn't it... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
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Quote: gutterfax "Alas, it is a simplified world you live in buddy. If the constant references to Union were purely about the slow ponderous nature of the game, then I have no doubt that everyone, even Billy with his 10 minute loo-break experience, would agree.
Unfortunately, the references to Union are usually delivered as a barb towards the game in general and anyone stupid enough to watch it, never mind pay to watch it. There is a train of thought on here, displayed by many posters, that surely the 70,000,000+ who watch the 6 nations, or the 1,000,000+ who attend the 6 Nations, or the millions who attend world cups or the 4 billion viewers d040.gif
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Quote: Him "My dearest William, indeed I did quote the wrong figure. However what you deliberately missed off was the comparison to just 5 days worth of English Football. That was the comparison, since the Union Moonies were happily slagging off the far, far bigger code of football.'"

If you check the thread (Page 6), you'll discover it was in fact one of your moonie cohorts (moonie81) who slagged off the far bigger code of soccer first. Gutterfax merely responded by agreeing that soccer was poop, just like union... but popular poop.

Quote: Him "Are we allowed to mention that Football's boring or will you come back with a load of TV viewing figures to put us all in our place?'"

Quote: Him "Nah...soccer is poop
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Quote: gutterfax "Alas, it is a simplified world you live in buddy. If the constant references to Union were purely about the slow ponderous nature of the game, then I have no doubt that everyone, even Billy with his 10 minute loo-break experience, would agree.'"


Back at the start of the Burgess thread when people were sticking to just the on field action in RU.....

Quote: gutterfax " I looked at the stats during the last Lions tour. One game the leading forward did 7 tackles and 4 hit ups. Last season Sam avg'd 34 tackles and 15 hit ups a game.'"


Which got this reply.....

Quote: gutterfax "Was that the Lions tour that attracted 192,972 fans to 3 test matches. Maybe they should have had a double header? It's a wonder that people around the world other than Austalia seem to prefer watching it.'"


Repeat a few more times then claim/dream up that its others who brought things like attendances, popularity and how the sport is run into the debate and criticised them.

Here's another one......

Quote: gutterfax "They may not be fat lard-'rses but many are certainly lumbering and have very poor skills. The obsession with scrums is a major negative in Union. Reduce the need for such strength in the front row and you could have a much better game.'"


Which got this response.....

Quote: gutterfax "Indeed, although I don't think they could squeeze many more into Twickenham on match day. 328,000 over 4 weekends @ £60 each paying a total of close to £20,000,000 to the RFU.'"
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