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| The South African cricketer and fieldsman [iextraordinaire[/i Gus McKay delivered the news of London's relocation to Barnet on the BBC. Does that mean that he remains CEO for 2014?
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The South African cricketer and fieldsman [iextraordinaire[/i Gus McKay delivered the news of London's relocation to Barnet on the BBC. Does that mean that he remains CEO for 2014?'"
Yep.
He is the only back office staff member with all administrative and marketing duties taken over by the team at the Hive in return for a fee and a share of the gate revenue and ALL the bar and food revenue.
The move protects nothing about top flight RL in the capital, but does give him a chance to brush up his CV,
Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "14-01-11 / Gus Mackay Joins as CEO. The Club had finished the previous year with a 3,400 average.
20-02-11 / 1,766 witness the seasons opener v Crusaders a record lowest attendance for the club in SL
22-06-11 / Club announce they are investigating a possible re-brand
10-09-11 / 3,456 Watch the loss to St Helens, securing 12th spot
01-11-11 / Club announce a rebrand back to the Broncos name
19-01-12 / Season Tickets sent out to 859 people.
24-01-12 / Club dispatches Replica shirts with the promise you can have the sponsor added later…when they get one
27-01-12 / Club Launch new Website nearly 3 full months after the re-brand
04-02-12 / 4,924 witness the first game as the London Broncos..the team has no shirt sponsor
17-05-12 / After only 2 league wins all season and declining crowds the club announce a review.
09-06-12 / 2,117 watch the team achieve their third win of the season to move off the foot of the table.
17-07-12 / The Club announce a temporary sponsorship arrangement with a local building supplies store.
18-07-12 / The Club, sitting bottom of the league, announce the return of Tony Rea.
18-08-12 / The Sun report the club is moving to Gillingham, The CEO does nothing on Live TV to dispell this rumour
18-08-12 / CEO states that is may be November before the new coach is anounced
21-08-12 / Three days later, Tone Rea is announced as the new head coach.
08-09-12 / 2,525 watch the Broncos win their last game of the season, finishing in 12th position with the lowest ever average for a season…2,808
08-09-12 / No official announcements are made at the end of seasons awards……the home ground and info in 2013 ST's are still a mystery
19-09-12 / The Club announce that they will remain at the stoop for 2013.
05-11-12 / Pre season begins
12-11-12 / 5 days later…The Club announce the 2013 ST deals on offer which included the early bird offer and the promise of 2 fans foums during the season.
13-11-12 / Selco extend their sponsorship of the Broncos for the 2013 season in a deal brokered by the RFL.
15-01-13 / Gus tells the BBC that the club will definitely be leaving the stoop at the end of the season
15-01-13 / The Club online shop opens….3 weeks after Xmas
22-01-13 / Season ticket Early Bird offer extended.
03-02-13 / 2,856 fans witnes the season opening loss to Widnes. Some fans are overcharged by the club for entrance to the game.
17-01-13 / 2nd home game of the year and A record low crowd for the visit of Wakefield to London in SL of 1,887
21-02-13 / The Club announce the return of Curry Night
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| Gutterfax's last posting could be written about so many RL clubs.
Maybe one day someone will bite the bullet and say enough is enough.
If that means the end of sacred clubs then so be it.
RL is touted as a business, so deal with it as a business and make the decisions that need to be made.
If some clubs disappeared I don't think many would be at the wake as things stand at the moment.
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| Gutters, or anyone else for that matter - A few genuine questions here, given the situation the club are in at the moment do you think moving to Barnet is a good move? Either as a stop gap or as a firm relocation to build from?
If a place to build from do you think they'd be better off renaming themselves after the local area? Barnet Broncos? Rather than as London?
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| Quote: Him "Gutters, or anyone else for that matter - A few genuine questions here, given the situation the club are in at the moment do you think moving to Barnet is a good move? Either as a stop gap or as a firm relocation to build from?'"
The Stoop was costing £200k a year (in the 2012 report I have been shown). This cost represents 9% of the loss made by the club that year (£2,200,000) and when you take into account that ticket sales and ST revenue generated £323,000, then it is hard to fathom exactly why the move has happened? Administration costs of £630,000
David Hughes cares little for the £14,000,000 or so he has "lost". He does not accept any form of criticism or critical advice, he employed and then stuck with Powell, he employed the Current CEO with little in the way of formal interviews or background checks, he stands toe to toe with the RFL on a number of issues and essentially treats the club as HIS hobby. Some fans will accept this and to be fair, he is a ing legend for propping the club up, but a 5yr old could tell you that it is not a business model that would deliver any sustainability.
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| So in order to get Mr K involved in 2015 the club needs,by the end of 2014,to be getting close to 4k or 5k gates with an average admittance price of £40 a month ,and Mr K ,Barnet fc and the Hive have been given the Task?
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| Quote: j.c "So in order to get Mr K involved in 2015 the club needs,by the end of 2014,to be getting close to 4k or 5k gates with an average admittance price of £40 a month ,and Mr K ,Barnet fc and the Hive have been given the Task?'"
in a nutshell? Yep!
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| Quote: gutterfax "in a nutshell? Yep!'"
A big job on there hands,lets hope the locals buy into it
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| Just to clarify the long term prospects for the London Broncos thanks to the new deal:
1. No club with an average under 10,000 in SL is self sufficient. They ALL make losses.
2. TK (guy at barnet) we are reliably informed does not invest.....he expects his teams to pay their own way
3. The Hive is currently a 5,200 capacity stadium.
4. See points 1 & 3 then re-read point 2.
Feel free to use a calculator if necessary!
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| Quote: gutterfax "Just to clarify the long term prospects for the London Broncos thanks to the new deal
1 Super League clubs are gifted over £1 milion a year 'Sky' money.
2 Nobody FORCES directors of clubs to pay higher player salaries than they can afford.
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| Directors of clubs should IMO pay basic salaries they can afford under any scenario and then, on top, agree a schedule of player bonuses that increase in line with the home crowd they they play in front of. [A bit like the rental deal London Broncos has with Barnet FC].
Don't misunderstand me. I think RL players 'deserve' all the money they get and more (especially when you see what soccer players are paid).
But it stands to reason that directors can only afford to pay them more as crowds go up.
When the potential of relegation comes in under the 2x12, 3x8 structure, it will be up to club directors to decide if they want to try to 'speculate to accumulate' by paying higher salaries using their own money. If they fail and the club does get relegated (for which they have to be REALLY poor given the way the 2x12, 3x8 structure will work) another club will step up from the league below and see what they can do with the £1m+ Sky money each year (& the crowds they will then get).
There needs to be much clearer penalties for entities owning clubs suffering an insolvency event including points deduction for going into Administration and relegation to the bottom division for going bust.
THEN the Salary Cap nonsense can be scrapped. It costs a fortune in time, effort, avoidance activity and money to adminster. And it is serving no purpose. Apart the the game in this country shooting itself in the foot.
If an owner wants to boost his club (and the game here in general) using his own money to sign Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, Shaun Johnson, Leigh Halfpenny or whoever, let them.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The South African cricketer and fieldsman [iextraordinaire[/i Gus McKay delivered the news of London's relocation to Barnet on the BBC. Does that mean that he remains CEO for 2014?'"
Sadly it would appear so.
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| Quote: Him "Gutters, or anyone else for that matter - A few genuine questions here, given the situation the club are in at the moment do you think moving to Barnet is a good move? Either as a stop gap or as a firm relocation to build from?
If a place to build from do you think they'd be better off renaming themselves after the local area? Barnet Broncos? Rather than as London?'"
I think the move is potentially a good one. Looking increasingly like another stop gap, though as the 'deal' is utter speculation, unless someone can point to real and public information on what it actually is?
As for a name any specific geographic name of an area within London could as equally limit the interest as a non specific name does. Problem is Barnet are currently based in Harrow! So which are we rebranding as?
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| They should NOT be in SL until they have at least capital of £3million per year to manage the club. This should be for all SL clubs.
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| Quote: Worzel "They should NOT be in SL until they have at least capital of £3million per year to manage the club. This should be for all SL clubs.'"
How many clubs would be left in SL if that was applied?
Genuine question, I really do not know.
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