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Quote: William Eve "...So why are we still persisting with it? Why hasn't the failed project been scrapped?'"


"We"?

Are you suggesting that you have some sort of connection with the game of rugby league? eusa_think.gif

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If they are appointed to SL after the GF when London have relinquished their place, there isn't time to recruit the number of quality SL players required to have a competitve squad.
Fev may well get promoted 2014 but they will be relagated along with one other club for 2015.

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Quote: Father Ted "If they are appointed to SL after the GF when London have relinquished their place, there isn't time to recruit the number of quality SL players required to have a competitve squad.
Fev may well get promoted 2014 but they will be relagated along with one other club for 2015.'"


Who says they will win the grand final? They only won one of the last three!

Good luck to them. Hope Faisal comes through for them......

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Quote: gutterfax "10 teams, 27 rounds a season (rotating 14 away/13 home on year then 14 home/13 away the next) 135 games a year.
5 Games a Week, starting off Fri eve 1, 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday then when the Wendyball finishes, Thursday, Fri, Sat, Sunday, Monday with Thursday and Monday fixtures allocated DERBY GAMES.

Season runs from March 1st to Mid September.
London 1
London 2
France 1
France 2
Yorkshire 1
Yorkshire 2
Yorkshire 3
Lancashire 1
Lancashire 2
Lancashire 3


Top 4 play off
Weekend 1
Game 1EU BORN players per Team allowed.....none of the training/federation bollox.

Minimum 1 exhibition game taken on the road each year to a pre-allocated non heartland area to grow interest on the game...subsidised by the Competition owners.

The RFL can fight BARLA for control of the game under this level and when the RFL lose they can all get jobs flipping burgers, because it's all they are qualified for
10 teams. that's the limit of the games ambitions and two of them don't currently exist but you think Sky will fork out the money for them. There is no war with a rival network over here to goad Murdoch into action. Dream on.

What makes you so sure your 10 franchises won't run into troubles and then there will be 9 or 8. How soon do you think the league will be too small to provide a decent fixture list and cause Sky to be disenchanted and walk away?

Australia has a bigger league with a third of the population and has proposals to be even bigger.

A ten team breakaway. good luck with that.

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Quote: littlerich "Jesus Christ. The stupidity of some people.'"


It really is frustrating icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mr Churchill "If London drop out, I wouldn't plant Featherstone in Super League for 2014. Just run with 13 teams. Then only the bottom team is relegated in 2014. The SL clubs would have fewer fixtures (but with the same SKY money) so they should be happy.

IF they want an extra match to partly compensate there could be two magic weekends. Each with 12 teams (6 matches over two days). Exclude say Wakefield from the first and say Cas from the second. Then they could play each other in a derby (at Featherstone?) to even up the matches played instead of having a bye one weekend. Or make it the last match of the season.

PS Can't find a 'tongue in cheek' smillie'"


2 magic weekends, plus 2 clubs only play in 1 each but then play a match at Fev?

Sounds like taking a sledge hammer to break an egg, but at least you have accepted you were wrong

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It will be. Paying someone £40k instead of £20k so he can train in the local fitness first instead of being a plumber does not a full-time player make.'"


So you were wrong and are acting to form with your waffle, if not take the bet

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Quote: Nostradamus's lad "So you were wrong and are acting to form with your waffle, if not take the bet'"

I,ve no interest in what they call themselves. They are miles away from being fully professional clubs.

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Quote: keighley1 "10 teams. that's the limit of the games ambitions and two of them don't currently exist but you think Sky will fork out the money for them. There is no war with a rival network over here to goad Murdoch into action. Dream on.

What makes you so sure your 10 franchises won't run into troubles and then there will be 9 or 8. How soon do you think the league will be too small to provide a decent fixture list and cause Sky to be disenchanted and walk away?

Australia has a bigger league with a third of the population and has proposals to be even bigger.

A ten team breakaway. good luck with that.'"

1. I am not advocating a SL was as such, just making a case that if SKY were to table this offer a year before the end of their current TV deal, with hints as to their reluctance to spend heavily in the game, then Wigan, Leeds, Hull FC and a couple of other heavy hitters may sign up...if they do, it becomes a feeding frenzy for the remaining places.
2. I did not say that Franchises would not encounter troubles....what I did say was independently checked business plans and 5 million up front to be drip fed back over the term of the Licence would soften the blow. I also alluded to these Franchises being run as businesses and not hobbies. The Likes of Ken Davy and David Hughes are destroying the game....if Hudds win the GF, they'll still struggle to attract crowds next year and London haven't spent a brass farthing advertising over the last 2 years.
3. Australian RL is essentially NSWRL with 2 expansion clubs bankrolled by SKY, another in debt to SKY after a bail out, a Gold Coast Graveyard team and a Kiwi side representing an entire nation. The model I have suggested is not dissimilar with maybe SKY bankrolling the 2 London teams from the start with a view to selling them off. This time last year the Sydney Wanderers soccer team didn't exist....this year they've just turned down a bid for 15,000,000 from the Penrith Panthers.
4. If there isn't a ten team league within 10 years then the game will already be semi-professional with the best talent going south to Australia. What is clear id the RFL are trying to pander to the financial needs of the top 6 or so clubs, whilst meeting the desires of smaller clubs who think they can cut it at the top level.

The top 8 SL clubs this year will all turn over more than 5 million notes.....Fev's 4,500 fan target (20 quid each..I am being generous) together with SKY money delivers 2,500,000 at best.........they will be up and down faster than a whores drawers and the owner will be out of pocket......the cycle of clubs going to the wall in the pursuit of the holy grail will continue and the game will eventually end up with 4 main protagonists at best and 6 or 7 smaller clubs to make up the numbers.

As someone has said earlier, Super 15 in New Zealand is a prime example of how top level franchises can work without destroying the existing club structures. Wellington Hurricanes Season ticket includes all Wellington Lions games too....those Hurricanes not currently on All Blacks duty run out for the Lions or their home provinces....it's a system that works well and has started to see the provinces make money again after a few years of stupidity.

The key is the management of the top tier.....the RFL are clearly not best placed to make hard decisions and that's why SKY or one of their subsidiaries needs to run this BUSINESS under the rules of the RLIF.

It's a pipe dream......but it is a simple plan to make the game more attractive to fans, sponsors, corporates and investors....got to be better than telling fibs about Foxy Bingo being more profitable than Engage.... d040.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "We could just not have an odd number of games. That would be a pretty simple solution.'"

Isn't the Magic Weekend already booked in?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Isn't the Magic Weekend already booked in?'"

With all teams not getting a game they couldn't logically use it as now with league points at stake but they could maybe use it as a cup round - two double headers over the Saturday and Sunday for the quarter finals maybe? It would be an even bigger attraction for a Championship club(s) to make the last eight and be part of the beano.

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Accept who and where we are, then set about improving it
We have 5 clubs drawing crowds and generating income plus cats plus London. The rest are no better/bigger than the top teams below if they had been granted the same income these past 18 years
It will be brilliant when we have 10 and not 5, but it may never happen so we should go two tens but full time in 2015

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Isn't the Magic Weekend already booked in?'"

Another year at least at CoM, two I think but can't be sure.

Just have 28 games 1mm and an on the road round

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Another year at least at CoM, two I think but can't be sure.

Just have 28 games 1mm and an on the road round'"


Still doesn't work with 13 teams , you would need a 12/24/36 game season

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Would love to see Fev in, but also still feel Keighley could be re-born as an SL club (esp with the Bulls unfortunately on a downward slope).

Part of me will also always think a York is a big enough city to support an SL club, great place. icon_smile.gif

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