An unintended but pernicious outcome of licensing was that it took 'poop ground, no fans' to a whole new level and moved us somewhat away from an enthralling sporting contest, to a very dreary business competition.

Other clubs' economic difficulties became a win, of sorts. Being pleased that you've beaten a rival is a cause for celebration, or even other results going your way. Cheering or gloating over a rejection of planning permission, or a CCJ, or whatever - that is just wrong on so many levels. But it became natural.

Think the RL 'family' did more than its bit for Bradford... but what can you do if they chose to waste the money on pre-match fireworks.

Well he wants to get back here then cos the cricket player has turned his club into one that's rank bottom and getting worse.

Maybe should spend his time trying to buy you players that might be a able to win more than the occasional coin toss?

Or he could buy you a mini bus and take the fans home after the game

Those would be the ones donated by a local supplier for the wear it red campaign to raise cash for research and awareness of women's cancers?

No money of the Bull's money wasted there but you keep grasping for those straws.

The Bulls Captain must have called the toss wrong when they played the challenge cup match against the Broncos this year.

Yah, and what a historic cup run you went on. Well, the last game had a historic score line..

I wonder how many on here have actually run a payroll?

It seems remarkably odd to me that the payment is delayed until 8th August - why? Once the bank are assured that there are funds in the account, then the payroll could be run immediately, I wonder what the delay is for and whether those employees who have gone overdrawn or been otherwise embarrassed have had a promise of full recompense?

FWIW I wish Bradford well and hope they come through as a Salford season ticket holder for many years I do know the gut wrenching feeling of constant promises of new dawns, each one false - but hopefully not this time for two heartland clubs!!

Pff at least I can afford straws Not quite. You are embarrassing yourself, all by yourself, so we don't have to.

I don't remember much sympathy from the bulls in 96 when leeds were struggling and they were riding high.

When lodon were struggling they voted them out. When wakefield and crusaders struggled they circled like vultures on their players.

I remember a tirade from their then media manager stuart duffy? in a 2006 matchday programme dedicated entirely to slagging leeds off and taking an abnormal and disturbing amount of pleasure in leeds lack of silverware, while their fat fans gleefully quaffed down pies and burgers, chuckling to themselves.

As long as their employees and players get gigs elsewhere I'm happy to see the club rot.

That might have been true a couple of seasons ago in the case of several players (and I said so repeatedly) but in the main I have been very happy with the amount of dog in the current squad this year, especially given where we started from, and being on half money of everyone else. The Hull game was one example of it, as is the miracle that we are still live in the race for a top 8 spot despite having a 50% funding penalty.

They'll do for me.

Always the case when there's only 1 turnstile open. Still, 1's more than enough.