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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 ""The RFL don't have the right people in place."
"The RFL aren't doing enough to expand the game."
"The RFL aren't doing enough to pull in top sponsors."
Yadda yadda yadda.
Apparently the brainiacs complaining about the deals on here think that the way to do these things is to stop accepting money from anyone and everyone until the right deal comes along, and at the same time hire the top administrators in their field, as well as expand the game on loads of areas in order to get these sponsorship deals.
Easily done, obviously. No flaws at all in this plan.
Oh, and whilst this doesn't happen, they're going to b*tch and moan about it not happening as that will increase the probability of it happening.
Ingenious!'"
Ta dah!
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| Quote: christopher "It seems the RFL can't win. Some section of RL fans really are embarrassing with the constant moaning.'"
I'll moan about the RFL for as long as its run by a man who has not the slightest idea about strategy or marketing. When he occasional delivers the odd thing here and there that might just about be in line with the bare minimum requirement of the job, I'm not going to suddenly give him praise. He's paid a lot of money, and therefore doesn't deserve credit just because he delivers something for which you might give a pat on the back to an 18 year old marketing intern. We deserve better, and he should deliver better. He can't, because he's not smart enough and he's an accountant not a leader. The job is hard, but don't let the challenges he faces convince you that nobody else could do better. He's not good enough, end of.
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| Quote: r a n c i d "It shows why the sport is the omnishambles that it is. The problem is not people whinging that it's not good enough, the problem is most league fans are more than happy to embrace abject mediocrity, as seen throughout the thread, they're happy to be viewed as Jeremy Kyle-esque, because a lot of them are!
People with expectations of growth see these sponsorship deals as a reminder of the pathetic spread and supporter base that English League boasts, the insular, backwater nature of the game. The darts, bingo, amber leaf and chunky soup demographic that the flat cap wearers embody.
Members on this forum see it as money is money, people have heard of Foxy Bingo therefore hooray. It's no wonder the game is on its knees, most are complacent.
And now they(flat-cappers) have a new trick, they blame a minority of fans who aren't happy with the game as the reason for poor sponsorship. They say, 'Ah, by complaining about crap sponsors you're the reason for crap sponsors', as if they makes sense. As if critical voices in other sports don't exist, and to the same degree, and even higher. Doesn't seem to stop any other sport. But a few fans on the RLFANS message board are enough to cripple the sponsorship opportunities for Super League, we're told!
It's just a sad state of affairs and it will continue to be so until people stop undervaluing the game by excusing the crap we're served up'"
exactly. Some of the RFL's defenders need to ask themselves "if this is good work, what would bad work look like?" We put up with absolute clowns.
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| Quote: RLBandit "I'll moan about the RFL for as long as its run by a man who has not the slightest idea about strategy or marketing. When he occasional delivers the odd thing here and there that might just about be in line with the bare minimum requirement of the job, I'm not going to suddenly give him praise. He's paid a lot of money, and therefore doesn't deserve credit just because he delivers something for which you might give a pat on the back to an 18 year old marketing intern. We deserve better, and he should deliver better. He can't, because he's not smart enough and he's an accountant not a leader. The job is hard, but don't let the challenges he faces convince you that nobody else could do better. He's not good enough, end of.'"
Look, if this was the main sponsor of the SL you may have a point, but it's not. Let's wait and see what that is before we start flapping around.
What we have is a financially sound company putting money into RL because they see value in it, this is actually a good thing. As someone posted earlier, Keno in Australia are a sponsor of the NRL and I don't see anyone calling that a disgrace, is that because it's Australian so it must be better?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Good start. As the third biggest team sport in the country with good tv audiences and decent media Covg to over 15 million people I am amazed companies are not interested in getting in bed with SL. For a relative low expenditure compared to other sports sponsorships you can get major exposure for 9 months of the year. All I can think is the corporate arm of the rfl is very poor at their jobs.'"
There you are, Sky have a monday night game in the soccer off season because we pull the punters in. For me the buck stops with the rfl.
I remember seeing that nrl advert with tina turner. It was sensational. Made rugby league look the sport to watch, fashionable and easy on the eye. I'd love us to do something like that. It sometimes feels as if we are always apologising for something instead of saying look at us, we are awesome.
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1506.jpg [quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
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| Quote: r a n c i d "It shows why the sport is the omnishambles that it is. The problem is not people whinging that it's not good enough, the problem is most league fans are more than happy to embrace abject mediocrity, as seen throughout the thread, they're happy to be viewed as Jeremy Kyle-esque, because a lot of them are!
People with expectations of growth see these sponsorship deals as a reminder of the pathetic spread and supporter base that English League boasts, the insular, backwater nature of the game. The darts, bingo, amber leaf and chunky soup demographic that the flat cap wearers embody.
Members on this forum see it as money is money, people have heard of Foxy Bingo therefore hooray. It's no wonder the game is on its knees, most are complacent.
And now they(flat-cappers) have a new trick, they blame a minority of fans who aren't happy with the game as the reason for poor sponsorship. They say, 'Ah, by complaining about crap sponsors you're the reason for crap sponsors', as if they makes sense. As if critical voices in other sports don't exist, and to the same degree, and even higher. Doesn't seem to stop any other sport. But a few fans on the RLFANS message board are enough to cripple the sponsorship opportunities for Super League, we're told!
It's just a sad state of affairs and it will continue to be so until people stop undervaluing the game by excusing the crap we're served up'"
There's an irony in the calls for brands that sell big money, premium products to sponsor the game when, at the same time, these boards are constantly littered with complaints about ticket prices, costs and the RFL "not realising that this is a working mans name and that fans can't afford x......!"
RL is one of the cheapest professional spectator sports in the UK and yet these boards are constantly littered with incessant complaining about the cost of play-off tickets, CC tickets, Magic Weekend travel costs and demands for the RFL to dish out free / cheap tickets left, right and centre.
If you were a marketing / brand manager at a blue-chip, premium product brand, would you honestly read this forum and think "yep, these sound like just the type of people we want to market to!" For most on here, RL is one of our biggest passions and yet we somehow object to spending £18 to see a play-off semi-final.
With fans like these, who needs enemies?
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "There's an irony in the calls for brands that sell big money, premium products to sponsor the game when, at the same time, these boards are constantly littered with complaints about ticket prices, costs and the RFL "not realising that this is a working mans name and that fans can't afford x......!"
RL is one of the cheapest professional spectator sports in the UK and yet these boards are constantly littered with incessant complaining about the cost of play-off tickets, CC tickets, Magic Weekend travel costs and demands for the RFL to dish out free / cheap tickets left, right and centre.
If you were a marketing / brand manager at a blue-chip, premium product brand, would you honestly read this forum and think "yep, these sound like just the type of people we want to market to!" For most on here, RL is one of our biggest passions and yet we somehow object to spending £18 to see a play-off semi-final.
With fans like these, who needs enemies?'"
Good post!.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Whilst I am not a fan of Foxy Bingo being on board, this time last year we were all having a pop at the RFL for giving the sponsorship away...this year, regardless of how little cash is changing hands, they are announcing partnerships like this and saying there are more to come.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Exactly!
Unfortunately some are still stuck in 1972 and think it should still be like the way it was because it was "great back then". Times change and we need teams in different areas............and before any smart-ar$e comes along saying "Crusaders".........it just needs doing right and not being rushed.'"
So who did it ' wrong and rushed ' ? , and who said it was being done wrong and rushed at the time? ,so how should it be done and how long will it take?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: wire quin "It never will until its played in other parts of the country, Europe World. Thats what some are saying. Get the game out of the M62 or we will forever have "nothing" sponsors paying 5 bob. Hence why we need a successful London franchise-I know the parochial fans in the M62 cant see any further than there local team playing in a run down stadium but we need to face the facts. Industry is speaking here(Bingo!!)
Keep the game in a 10 mile radius of Wigan, Leeds and Hull and the game will die'"
So you are obviously an expert on how it shouldnt be done, so how in your opinion should it be done? , and why should expansion done your way exclude building the sport in the heartlands?
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| Im not the expert on how it shouldn't be done just pointing out the type of sponsor the game attracts in its current format.
I cant imagine RBS, O2 etc getting involved with a sport located in one region of the country-Maybe Woody will prove me wrong next week.
Build the sport everywhere but dont have more teams in the top league from small towns on the M62 (1 limited potential 2 compounds the current problem-do you not see it)
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Ta dah!'"
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: wire quin "Im not the expert on how it shouldn't be done just pointing out the type of sponsor the game attracts in its current format.
I cant imagine RBS, O2 etc getting involved with a sport located in one region of the country-Maybe Woody will prove me wrong next week.
Build the sport everywhere but dont have more teams in the top league from small towns on the M62 (1 limited potential 2 compounds the current problem-do you not see it)'"
I meant an expert on how not to expand into London
Correct, they probably wont, so the options are what?
Once again if we dont have SL standard clubs springing up here, there and everywhere , what other options are there for the makeup of SL in the near future ?
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| Quote: wire quin "Im not the expert on how it shouldn't be done just pointing out the type of sponsor the game attracts in its current format.
I cant imagine RBS, O2 etc getting involved with a sport located in one region of the country-Maybe Woody will prove me wrong next week.
Build the sport everywhere but dont have more teams in the top league from small towns on the M62 (1 limited potential 2 compounds the current problem-do you not see it)'"
But the RFL are trying to expand with the introduction of 3 new teams in the championship. This is how it should be done in letting them build and growing a fan base. Lets concentrate on getting London right before fast tracking new expansion teams with no fan base or foundations and hope that the likes of O2, Vodafone will suddenly take notice that we have 1000 people attending them.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Bull Mania "But the RFL are trying to expand with the introduction of 3 new teams in the championship. This is how it should be done in letting them build and growing a fan base. Lets concentrate on getting London right before fast tracking new expansion teams with no fan base or foundations and hope that the likes of O2, Vodafone will suddenly take notice that we have 1000 people attending them.'"
Is this how it should be done? , I'd have said something in between what they did do and what they are now doing
They annonced 4 before they had any, and are now spreading their resources too thinly, and have completely devalued a whole division as a result
1 new club every 3/4 years properly supported in a spreading pattern rather than the ' sattelite scattergun ' they have employed
The inclusion of all these new clubs at once could damage some existing expansion clubs, I really dont see how they come up with some of these idea's
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