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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "The Carolina Panthers, Toronto FC, Orlando Magic, The Jacksonville Jaguars, Seattle Seahawks, Goldcoast Titans, Melbourne Storm, Tampa Bay Rays, Arizona Diamondbacks, Toronto Raptors, Real Salt Lake,'"


So we have RL in australia and US only sports in north America , have they ever had promotion and relegation in these sports ?

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Quote: Starbug "' Planning ' means fook all my friend , as you well know , Leeds might have planned doing Headingley up in 1938 , it took them , what was it 65 years ?'"

So you're complaint is that within less than a year of being promoted Crusaders had submitted planning permission for a new stadium and had planned to move for the 2010 (their second in SL) to another stadium whilst their new stadium was being built, but infact moved permanently to a different stadium for the 2010 season and going forward. But their one year stay at a stadium which wasnt up to standard wasnt short-term enough for you.

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Quote: Starbug "So we have RL in australia and US only sports in north America , have they ever had promotion and relegation in these sports ?'"

Yes, Toronto FC and the Toronto Raptors in their US only sports in north america, that actually happen to be probably the two biggest sports in the entire world but hey ho.

but no they didnt ever have promotion and relegation, because even though they do have lower leagues they see it for the ridiculously damaging idiocy it is.

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Quote: Leaguefan "I really do find it bizarre that people really do think that regarding what is on the field of play is secondary or tertiary to everything else.

In fact the ONLY thing that prevents the game being played anywhere is something that can be called a "ball".

It really is that simple.

The GAME is the key to everything else not the other way round.'"


I...I agree with you here. Make the game faster, more entertaining and better to watch. The Scrum is a nonsense. It needs to be controlled, but competitive, this would reward good kicking and would bring a new dimension to the game. At least make them put it in straight - stop penalising teams for trying.

Make the game the same around the world. Football is so good because from a Sunday League match to a Champions League final (give or take a man with a stick). Then its allowing expansion to develop naturally, by creating teams where there are schools playing League. I would aim for Nottingham as a place, being not too far, and near enough to London, but I would have a team playing in Super League in 20 Years. A Second Team in London would be another thing. I would promote Toulouse in this Franchise round.

Get everyong playing the game - loving the game, the crowds will grow themselves.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "So you're complaint is that within less than a year of being promoted Crusaders had submitted planning permission for a new stadium and had planned to move for the 2010 (their second in SL) to another stadium whilst their new stadium was being built, but infact moved permanently to a different stadium for the 2010 season and going forward. But their one year stay at a stadium which wasnt up to standard wasnt short-term enough for you.'"


The Crusaders are not the same club as the Celtic Crusaders , short memory there Smokey icon_lol.gif

And if you believe the original ( 1 st , not 2 nd or 3 rd ) Crusaders would have been playing in a new stadium in South Wales inside 5 years , you really are far too gullible

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



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If you don't like it Nik , don't read it

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "Yes, Toronto FC and the Toronto Raptors in their US only sports in north america, that actually happen to be probably the two biggest sports in the entire world but hey ho.

but no they didnt ever have promotion and relegation, because even though they do have lower leagues they see it for the ridiculously damaging idiocy it is.'"


Go and watch it then , if it's so bloody good

Watching Basketball is the most mind numbing thing anybody can do , it's like slow motion tennis

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Quote: Starbug "The Crusaders are not the same club as the Celtic Crusaders , short memory there Smokey There has been only 2 crusaders. BTW. If for the purposes of this debate we are treating them as separate, though im sure this will change when it suits you

And just because it suits your argument to imagine something doesnt mean it is true, maybe Charlie Sheen could function working with what you imagine would happen in your imaginary alternate reality, but i find it helps to work with what actually happened. Who knows if Crusaders in their original guise would have moved. What we do know is that before the end of their first season the submitted planning permission and had mooted an alternate ground for their third season whilst their stadium was been built all suggests Brewery Field was a short-term plan.

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Quote: Starbug "Go and watch it then , if it's so bloody good

Watching Basketball is the most mind numbing thing anybody can do , it's like slow motion tennis'"
Yet it is a huge sport, with world wide reach and the Raptors are a valid example of what he asked for.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "There has been only 2 crusaders. BTW.

And just because it suits your argument to imagine something doesnt mean it is true, maybe Charlie Sheen could function working with what you imagine would happen in your imaginary alternate reality, but i find it helps to work with what actually happened. Who knows if Crusaders in their original guise would have moved. What we do know is that before the end of their first season the submitted planning permission and had mooted an alternate ground for their third season whilst their stadium was been built all suggests Brewery Field was a short-term plan.'"


See you've done it again , that word ' plan ' , ime planning to win the lottery this weekend

It means absolutely nothing , especially when it involves RL and stadiums , I do believe that Saints and Salford will play at new stadia by 2013 , both have been ' planning ' for years , Cas and Wakey have been planning for around a decade , neither will play in new stadia inside 3 years

Plans are not worth the paper they are written on

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "Yet it is a huge sport, with world wide reach and the Raptors are a valid example of what he asked for.'"


Go and watch it

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Quote: Starbug "See you've done it again , that word ' plan ' , ime planning to win the lottery this weekend

It means absolutely nothing , especially when it involves RL and stadiums , I do believe that Saints and Salford will play at new stadia by 2013 , both have been ' planning ' for years , Cas and Wakey have been planning for around a decade , neither will play in new stadia inside 3 years

Plans are not worth the paper they are written on'"

All I have said is that their stay at brewery field was planned to be short.

Im not sure why you expected my to try and do that without using the word 'plan'

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Quote: Starbug "Go and watch it'"

why?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "All I have said is that their stay at brewery field was planned to be short.

Im not sure why you expected my to try and do that without using the word 'plan''"


Maybe if they had got the stadium first , we might have still had a SL club in South Wales , much like the other Championship clubs had to do , oh I forgot we did , but they couldn't see it , there was a load of steel,bricks and concrete in the way icon_lol.gif

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