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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"Saints will win the grand final and challenge cup, just like last year, and the year before (title)...and the year before (title). People can squawk about how allegedly unpredictable the competition is but the end results are more predictable and telegraphed than ever before, and basically saints are decent and everyone else is crap. It's basically almost back to the 80's and 90's where wigan just won everything.
Rapidly losing interest.'"
Saints are playing like an NRL side, I reckon Catalans are still the closest challengers and Hull K R look promising. Saints are above everyone else because they have a good coach a good club structure and good recruitment balance they are salary capped not like the 80's and 90's. |
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Saints are playing like an NRL side, I reckon Catalans are still the closest challengers and Hull K R look promising. Saints are above everyone else because they have a good coach a good club structure and good recruitment balance they are salary capped not like the 80's and 90's.'"
Saints have a culture. No other team in SL do. Wigan are trying and will get it right within a couple of years but that’s why saints are so successful. No other team in SL has a culture and that’s why they will never win SL |
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Does the Rugby League always stand in solidarity with countries engaged in war and virtue signal that to let everyone know where they stand? I can't remember it happening before.
Is it just the TV games that stand in solidarity with Ukraine or do the non TV games stand in solidarity too?
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Saints are playing like an NRL side, I reckon Catalans are still the closest challengers and Hull K R look promising. Saints are above everyone else because they have a good coach a good club structure and good recruitment balance they are salary capped not like the 80's and 90's.'"
It's a reflection of how utterly hopeless the competition is when saints, who simply have good structures and a good coach, will win 4 titles on the trot and back to back doubles (at least). In normal circumstances, if a competition is what it says on the tin, a team pulling those kind of numbers would be a seminal team, with generational players.
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Isn't the best super league ever
But only like man city/Liverpool been top last 4 or 5 years
When you see a video off a man City player rolling around on Facebook 6 or 7 times you realise rugby league isn't near as embarrassing as that
Teams dominate in all sports end of
Super league needs to scrap the salary cap as all it does is keep the ambition down and no money to be made
Players don't dream of earning £80,000 a year playing RL
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"Super league needs to scrap the salary cap as all it does is keep the ambition down and no money to be made
Players don't dream of earning £80,000 a year playing RL'"
Nor do parents dream of that for their child, they are so important in taking to training and games etc. If they have the choice between league n Union money or even football we just don't compete ! |
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Saints given 1 try that should've been disallowed.
Wigan bombed a try and scored a legitimate one not even referred to the screen.
Saints final try was scrappy and lucky.
Game easily could've gone the other way despite Saints 'mullering' Wigan
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While it is tempting and it’d be easy to make jokes about feeling sympathy for Leeds fans who have not seen their team win a trophy since 2020, I think it does illustrate another issue will the same clubs dominating a sport for a prolonged period… the withdrawal symptoms and lack of tolerance for disappointment among some (not all!) of their fans when they have to endure a period of the mediocrity so familiar to the clubs fulfilling the role of opponent, year in and year out, are so used to. We take our happiness were we can and have learned to treasure it.
McManus has invested heavily at Saints to make them what they are today, and yes they also have a good culture. Kind of admirable, but yeah kind of boring too from the outside. But not massively more so than the previous 37 years since (probably not entirely coincidentally) my own club had a ‘good culture’ and won major trophies.
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The gap between saints and the rest of SL is evident when you consider there isn’t one player from the rest of SL that would get in saints first 13. Wigan fans will shout “jai field” but there is no way he is anywhere near the class of Welsby. He’s just a sprinter playing rugby league who is only decent in broken play.
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| Quote TheWarringtonWolve69="TheWarringtonWolve69"The gap between saints and the rest of SL is evident when you consider there isn’t one player from the rest of SL that would get in saints first 13. Wigan fans will shout “jai field” but there is no way he is anywhere near the class of Welsby. He’s just a sprinter playing rugby league who is only decent in broken play.'"
Far too much hype if an attacking full back, for that position you need the attributes to be creative and have a good defence. Jai Field has neither he's just a broken field runner and thats about it. Can't defend either the last try by Percival he allowed Percival to juggle the ball to score can't defence read. |
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Far too much hype if an attacking full back, for that position you need the attributes to be creative and have a good defence. Jai Field has neither he's just a broken field runner and thats about it. Can't defend either the last try by Percival he allowed Percival to juggle the ball to score can't defence read.'"
Totally agree. He’s just another Adam Quinlan. The way the Wigan have been crowing about him, I thought he was the next Billy Slater. Wouldn’t get anywhere near Saints 17 |
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"While it is tempting and it’d be easy to make jokes about feeling sympathy for Leeds fans who have not seen their team win a trophy since 2020, I think it does illustrate another issue will the same clubs dominating a sport for a prolonged period… the withdrawal symptoms and lack of tolerance for disappointment among some (not all!) of their fans when they have to endure a period of the mediocrity so familiar to the clubs fulfilling the role of opponent, year in and year out, are so used to. We take our happiness were we can and have learned to treasure it.
McManus has invested heavily at Saints to make them what they are today, and yes they also have a good culture. Kind of admirable, but yeah kind of boring too from the outside. But not massively more so than the previous 37 years since (probably not entirely coincidentally) my own club had a ‘good culture’ and won major trophies.'"
It's all to do with the lack of diversity at the top, in terms of final outcomes. This could get to the point where saints win 4 or 5 back to back doubles, at the very least, like it's nothing. It's never been this bad. How hard is it for teams to simply be coached well, have good young players and make smart overseas signings? The competition is just so, so poor. |
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