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| Player safety is everything, however no-one has made any comparison in terms of the actual risk.
People will continue to give positive tests when the test itself is so flawed that it gives a + for dead organic matter (The South Koreans found this and told WHO who then released this as it has a huge impact on how positive tests should be looked at.
Currently death toll FROM a respiratory disease other than C.19 is FIVE times more, and the C.19 deaths are counted where C.19 is mentioned and not actually the underlying cause of death, the C.19 number also includes all the pneumonia deaths as per the governments edict earlier this year.
Week33/14th August, the death toll WITH C.19 mentioned on the death cert is 139, respiratory deaths as underlying cause of death (so not the same as a death WITH) and excluding all pneumonia deaths is 852, this is England and Wales.
Positive tests as a % of those tested even with that flawed test, show lower positive rate for C.19 than for flu last year at same time of year. 0.55% compared to 0.81% of all tests.
Sure we want players to be safe, but the actual risk, even in Australia (locking down for less than half the death toll of flu was insane) is significantly less than flu than last year and in fact other years as it stands.
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| Quote 48756c6c20 524c4643="48756c6c20 524c4643"Player safety is everything, however no-one has made any comparison in terms of the actual risk.
People will continue to give positive tests when the test itself is so flawed that it gives a + for dead organic matter (The South Koreans found this and told WHO who then released this as it has a huge impact on how positive tests should be looked at.
Currently death toll FROM a respiratory disease other than C.19 is FIVE times more, and the C.19 deaths are counted where C.19 is mentioned and not actually the underlying cause of death, the C.19 number also includes all the pneumonia deaths as per the governments edict earlier this year.
Week33/14th August, the death toll WITH C.19 mentioned on the death cert is 139, respiratory deaths as underlying cause of death (so not the same as a death WITH) and excluding all pneumonia deaths is 852, this is England and Wales.
Positive tests as a % of those tested even with that flawed test, show lower positive rate for C.19 than for flu last year at same time of year. 0.55% compared to 0.81% of all tests.
Sure we want players to be safe, but the actual risk, even in Australia (locking down for less than half the death toll of flu was insane) is significantly less than flu than last year and in fact other years as it stands.'"
Don't knock it. The teacher's unions want to close schools for an illness which has almost zero threat to children.
The virus is no longer the problem. The paranoid fear is our biggest threat. It doesn't help having politicians who are scared to lead and simply pander to mob fear.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"
The virus is no longer the problem. The paranoid fear is our biggest threat. It doesn't help having politicians who are scared to lead and simply pander to mob fear.'"
I take it you've not witnessed or had someone in the family that has passed away with it
A selfish ignorant comment
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| Quote snowie="snowie"I take it you've not witnessed or had someone in the family that has passed away with it
A selfish ignorant comment'"
I spent a week in hospital with Covid in April and appreciate the damage it can cause. However, the measures now in place are totally disproportionate to the virus we now have.
There are more people now dying from the effects of standard influenza and this will continue to be for ever more, which suggests we are going to be living under constant restrictions, seeing as influenza-caused deaths aren't going away any time soon?
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"I spent a week in hospital with Covid in April and appreciate the damage it can cause. However, the measures now in place are totally disproportionate to the virus we now have.
There are more people now dying from the effects of standard influenza and this will continue to be for ever more, which suggests we are going to be living under constant restrictions, seeing as influenza-caused deaths aren't going away any time soon?'"
Pleased you got through it but to say that it's not a threat is just bazaar, flu has always been a threat but you find covid is the bigger threat as it's out right now being spread.
Have some thought to the ones that are susceptible to catching it and are more likely to struggle to recover
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| Quote snowie="snowie"Pleased you got through it but to say that it's not a threat is just bazaar, flu has always been a threat but you find covid is the bigger threat as it's out right now being spread.
Have some thought to the ones that are susceptible to catching it and are more likely to struggle to recover'"
The death rate from covid is no worse than a standard flu. Like flu, it will claim old people and people who are generally vulnerable to any sort of viruses going around. Like my consultant said in hospital 'its a good job, you aren't fat, because you would be dead now'.
My point is, that while certain people need protecting (mainly because of their own self neglect over their lifetimes), deliberately crippling your own society has been a huge over reaction and will cause far more deaths and misery in the long term than this virus will ever do.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"The death rate from covid is no worse than a standard flu. Like flu, it will claim old people and people who are generally vulnerable to any sort of viruses going around. Like my consultant said in hospital 'its a good job, you aren't fat, because you would be dead now'.
My point is, that while certain people need protecting (mainly because of their own self neglect over their lifetimes), deliberately crippling your own society has been a huge over reaction and will cause far more deaths and misery in the long term than this virus will ever do.'"
Again you are showing ignorance It's not all about self neglect and being fat, while that is an issue with many my neighbour has leukemia and so far is recovering well, I'm not as serious with rheumatoid arthritis but both of us are on suppressing drugs for our immune system, neither of us are to blame for our conditions and wouldn't wish on our worse enemy
I'll leave it here as your just proving today's society doesn't give toss for anyone other than themselves 
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| Quote snowie="snowie"Again you are showing ignorance It's not all about self neglect and being fat, while that is an issue with many my neighbour has leukemia and so far is recovering well, I'm not as serious with rheumatoid arthritis but both of us are on suppressing drugs for our immune system, neither of us are to blame for our conditions and wouldn't wish on our worse enemy
I'll leave it here as your just proving today's society doesn't give toss for anyone other than themselves
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And you should rightly be shielding, as I presume you would from any flu virus in any given winter.
Again, the point is, we should not be crippling ourselves and our long term future for what has been a bad flu outbreak, albeit at an unusual time of year from when we usually experience one.
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