Wow....you are correct, I played no part in it, I never claimed I did,

But to ignore History, and what made us who we are today, let alone dis-respect those that put us where we are today... is not only a recipe for disaster, but shows ignorance beyond comprehension.


To state that I have 'no idea what we went to war for' , and had 'no idea what actually happened'.....what an idiotic statement, but clearly you know better, and have exceedingly more knowledge than me.

I just go and polish my Grandfathers Burma Star, and find out what he got it for............

We went to war to fight fascism to fight for freedom defend the poor and weak and oppressed, but you are quite happy to disrespect BLM and complain that the RFL are out off touch and pandering To Political correctness, maybe the best way to honour the war veterans and the end of WWII is to support the ideals it was thought for and the rights for people to protest and fight for social justice.

Few on here still latched to their mothers breast

So many gave up their tomorrows, so we could live our lives our own way today.

Don't give a toss about BLM I'm talking about the total disrespect to those that fought and gave their lives never mind how long ago.

Sounds like someone is in need of burbing

I prefer politics left out of sport, full stop.

I don't want to be compelled into public displays of nationalism, nor do I want virtue-signalling neo-Marxists expecting everyone to 'take the knee'.

Isn't there a megathread somewhere for this kind of thing? Some people agree, some people disagree. Do we need to have a thread on this every week? Its getting tedious.

Only checked the thread because I thought it was about the Leeds players foot from yeaterday

A Rugby League living legend Neil Fox should present the Challenge Cup, not minor royalty or a star but a true great...

What do you want a has-been DJ presenting the trophy for?.. If you are seriously going down that route, then Noel Edmonds or DLT might be a better shout?

Some of the issue is the political motivation linked to military matters : it's appropriate to commemorate VE and VJ Day, but still a bit more 'politically sensitive' to directly commemorate UK military involvement in The Falklands, Iraq (X2), Afghanistan, Balkans, Syria etc.

So perhaps though enduring involvement of the Services in RL it is indeed a recognition of support, and thanks, for those more recent efforts.

Well said, pretty much my thoughts entirely, very nicely summed up.

Particularly pertinent is the point about respecting some deaths but not others.

There is also the problem of respecting one cause but not others. Why should sports administrators and referees become arbiters of what is the 'correct' and acceptable type of political cause, and the type of political cause a player might receive a card and a ban for? It's too much to ask of them in my opinion, they should be focused on applying the rules of the game.

Good post.

Unfortunately, the people funding our game have decided that BLM is the political trend to follow ( see their sports news output for proof ) and so our sport as to get in line, otherwise it's probably curtains for British RL.

I think what's obvious, is that if we had crowds in the stadiums, then the politics wouldn't be getting such an extended look in.

Agreed. Wow,

We even have a soldier who was seriously injured as one of our referees and numerous veterans in the game.

This has NOTHING to do with BLM. That was a a erosional matter for players and their clubs. VJ Day should have planned at lest a year ago by SL and the RFL. Did the SL organisation for consider this 12 months ago?

Utterly out of touch.