Where are they going to find all the players to do this?

More to the point do you? if this Mr Wilby says it's going to happen do you have proof to the contrary.

Takes Newcastle 30 years to develop an amateur game in the area = bravo! Well done Newcastle.

Toronto don’t have one after being in existence for 3 years = shocking. Can’t believe we have let them in the league.

Toronto are a plastic club that’s why.

Just a quick question.

On the basis that it takes 20 -25 years to create anything like a reasonable amateur RL set up (and this is in a country that already plays RL), how long do you think it will take in N. America ?
Right now, there aren't sufficient players in the UK to sustain the additional pro clubs and although there does seem to be a dearth of decent players down under, just how many new clubs can the game support, without ANY extra players in the pool ?

Proof!!





Mr. Wilby is looking at a full season of games for New York, between 25-30 despite having no players, Brian Carney is a Superleague insider who thinks this is total nonsense. It appears the good Mr. Carney has the proof. Write to him at SKY Towers if you are outraged?

The thing is Steph that Gateshead Thunder set up a junior development system on entering the leagueand yes it took 30 years to get where it is today. In the last nigh on 4 years Toronto have not bothered to joining Canada RL and setting up any any junior RL system. The "Scotchy" bloke on Total RL keeps making the excuse that it's not up to Toronto to develop players, but up to Canada RL.

You'd like him. Like you he forgets many facts and realities, like the fact that Toronto Wolfpack as a club committed to player development and securing a TV deal to share here as the quid pro quo for entry to the leagues here. Of course they have reneged on both things, New York also look to be reneging on that, indicating they will sign existing players from the player pool. Only Ottawa via Perez have said they will set up a junior development programme. But Perez has a record for promising stuff and not delivering



Once Superleague get control of Superleague under a new TV deal city clubs in areas like TWP, Ottawa, London, New York and Newcastle will all want in. Who do you think Lenegan will allow in and who do you think he won't allow in?? I've left you a bit of a clue

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Or,it could be a club considered to be built on sand.
The rugby club owner may have to consider the possibility of The Falcons NOT being promoted should the fixtures NOT be concluded,and the season brought to a premature stop.
What if Mick Hogan returns to the other code?After all he left that other club with potential,Wigan Warriors,to go to union?
It is very easy to envisage Thunder to be homeless,again,in such a scenario.
Many of the Academy,and reserve side,are players from the heartlands who attend local universities.
This latest,crisis,in this country may have a sport-changing denouement.
I thought your argument,or one of your arguments,was producing Super League players? If so,there has recently been more North American accents in Super League than Geordie.

Nope, not my argument. Primarily Superleague want clubs with a junior development system, and SKY pay £300,000 a year per SL club to help it along.Newcastle have set the system up and if they were in Superleague they would have £300K a year to enhance it [uand then[/u can offer top local talent a pathway to Pro-RL.

This is why relegating London shuts off quality young Londoners from becoming Superleague players through the Broncos system. My "argument" is probably that clubs should not be allowed in Superleague without a junior development system and an academy. That would include Salford and Leigh. I think it was the rule at one time??

Not sure why you think it's hilarious me asking your thoughts on the matter, if I wrote to Mr Carney that would indicate that I give a toss which I don't, also I find it strange that you being the font of all knowledge regarding this NA adventure isn't quite sure where the players are coming from and need to refer to Carney to endorse what tbh is becoming quite boring from you regarding your thoughts on the matter, time to move on chief and pick a different subject to get your teeth into.

You are going a bit off topic here.If no longer being in Super League prevents London not having a system,why does it not prevent Bradford from having reserve and Academy sides,as they are no longer in Super League?

It seems the Academy is a bit of a lottery.Sheffield Eagles lost theirs - consequently the reserve side.

Halifax and Keighley were no longer permitted a reserve side.

The system may very well give the impression that the rich get richer,etc.

I agree, Newcastle Thunder are doing a great job. Unfortunately for them, this is the year that they need to get promoted with Ottawa next year and NYC the year after. Hopefully they don't need to wait until 2023 for another decent shot.

To the people with more knowledge on the Thunder, do you think that this can be their year?