Rangi Chase and Chris Heighinton proved that we might as well use and develop our own talent rather than make pathetic excuses to bring in some average overseas plodder who A) played in the NRL a handful of times or B) already played for another national side.

The "win at all cost" attitude is short term and probably very weak. And unfortunately the people at the top are very weak minded.

Carney not over Hall, Burgess or Briscoe.

Adam Cuthbertson however should be in the squad .

not for me, he's Australian, no amount of "living here" will ever make it right

see Rangi Chase

If he qualifies, he should be considered. But, I don't think he should be selected ahead of Hall, Burgess, Briscoe, Manfredi, Lineham, or McGilvery.

Steady on...

2 of those don't play for the feeder clubs for England, tut tut!

Hall, Briscoe, Burgess, Lineham, Makinson, McGilvary, Charnley if he finds his form would all be in front of Carney for me.

As for people saying that we should consider it as Australia and New Zealand do, that's because the players are good enough to get into the team. If someone like Daly Cherry-Evans said he would then i'd have no problems with it. He's good enough to improve the team and one of his parents is English.

RL fans are so precious about this its not funny. RU has for a long time had 'naturalised' players swapping nationality and nobody blinks. The England cricket team is full of South Africans.

I also completely disagree about 'win at all costs' being a problem - if anything SL and the RFL should do far more to get any edge they can - SL rules should be fought for, as with any other advantage rather than just bowing to the "NRL is best" tosh for example. Why give the best teams in the world an extra advantage? Again, an area where RU has shown it will sacrifice spectacle for competitiveness by backing northern hemisphere demands for rules that help negate the massive disadvantage they have in the backs against NZ and Australia.

As an aside I can't see Carney being anywhere near good enough. Heighington would have been OK if used right but wasn't all that. Chase was an experiment that didn't work. I hope McNamara has his feelers out constantly to see if any decent NRL players who qualify might be interested. So long as they do it for the right reasons and qualify by legitimate reasons I'm happy.

If Justin Carney has an Irish grandparent then he should be allowed to play for Ireland, alongside goal kicking and field kicking freak Paddy Richards.

But he cannot hope to be selected for England ahead of Leeds' Ryan Hall, or soon to be Sydney Rooster's Joseph Burgess, or even Wigan's Dominic Manfredi.

Surely shome misktake.... you mean Patrick.

i'm not precious about it
i just prefer my national side to contain English players not Australians or New Zealanders

Carney is a very good winger in his own right no doubt however,we are hardly struggling in that area.Hall,Burgess,Briscoe and Makinson are in front of him for sure imo and we also have two extremely talented young lads in Lineham and Manfredi who will be soon knocking on the door if they aren't already.