Yeah I know, it's all quite shocking isn't it.

As you'll know, the Barb/tv figures are quite a flawed thing to look at anyways as you can only record the games that made the top 10.

Saints vs Leeds at Langtree Park earlier this year took place on a busy week of football and didn't even make the Top 10, which was rounded off by a figure of 226k for the 10th most watched programme that week on SS1. So whilst it didn't make top 10 it would've still made quite a strong number, high 100's, possibly over 200k.

In July Wakey vs Widnes not only made the top 10 for that particular week, it finished as the 3rd most watched yet only attracted 87k.

I know the same issues will have faced the other seasons but you can't be sure to what extent, it just shows the whole pointlessness of using the agenda he's trying to do.

SKY will still be happy with that figure as the Catalan games are costing them barely anything to cover, as the pictures are from French TV with some graphics and commentary shoved on top.

In before ap comes back with more twisted stats to back up his argument.

It also looks like he's derived these figures by trawling back through the BARB weekly top 10s and finding the RL matches listed. Which, apart from being a pretty strange thing to do, clearly does not give an accurate reflection of the actual viewing figures because it's purely dependent on what channel the matches were broadcast on and what other sport was being shown that week.

When faced with bad news, shooting the messenger is often a popular response

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Comparing declining Sky viewing figures with declining SL attendances since 2012, what do we get?

Let's take a look shall we?

Regular season SL attendance total 2012 2013 SL attendances are 10% down on 2012.
2014 SL attendances are 5% down on 2013 and 15% down on 2012.[/i

Regular season Sky viewing figures in 2012 2013 Sky viewing figures are 9% down on 2012.
2014 Sky viewing figures are 6% down on 2013 and 14% down on 2012.[/i

I do hope it's okay to point out that both SL attendances and SL sky viewing figures exhibit a certain symmetry in comparison to one another.

If that's still too upsetting for the RL Moonies, then please accept the following two links as an olive branch...

rlSuper League TV audiences reaches new high!rl

rlGrounds for optimism on TV audiences!rl

Do BARB's figures provide a more accurate reflection of actual viewing figures when they paint a more positive picture for SL instead?

When agenda driven attention seeking trolls who use to be so much better at this kind of thing find their latest 'target' dissected and found fatally flawed before the end of the 1st page they'll often resort to going back to a previous theme, in this case attendances.

Quality standards aren't just slipping in terms of the Super League it seems.

No, I really couldn't care less about the viewing figures, it just seems strange that you would go to so much effort to come up with a measure that is conjectural at best.

A downward trend.

Cool.

You accused me of an agenda last season when I produced all the SL attendance figures prior to disappearing up your own rectum.

You've now accused me of an agenda for producing all of the Sky viewing figures.

On both occasions, I included everything for comparative purposes and left nothing out.

The figures are there for anyone to interpret in their own sweet way... even if that means omitting figures which they do not like, which, in your case would be the Catalan figures.

SL attendances and Sky viewing figures in 2014 are both considerably down on 2013 and 2012 are they not?

In fact, current SL attendances and Sky viewing figures are the lowest they've been for years are they not?

Which explains why you decided to contribute to a thread about the viewing figures, obviously.

Yeah, they've gone down.

.....well, I guess that's that discussion over with.

If there's any other trends you can bring to our attention please post them so we can agree and move on.

Left the thread mid season because their was only so much hearing about the obvious reasons Salford and Bradford's figures were down on a weekly basis. Returned at the end when full season numbers were available to give a analysis on.



You accuse anyone of suggesting a view you don't agree with as a "Moonie", tough luck if you don't want to be called agenda driven.



Quite right you did include it all, that's why I compared the other seasons to this and pointed to the obvious major issue of Catalan home games being included on Sky this year. I've never omitted the Catalans figures, you did. Like you say "the figures are there for people to interpret in their own sweet way"......so don't sulk when they interpret them in a way you don't like. Would you like us all to just turn and say "my god William you were right all along and SL in this country is doomed".....coming from a man who hates people being "sheep" that would seem a hypocritical thing to do.



Yes, if you can find a quote from me that says they're not then go for it. What some of us have tried to do is add context to the figures, they'll obviously be reasons for drops, we've tried to debate the reasons why until you come along with your RL apologists line simply because it's not your view.

Why do people keep commenting and keeping these threads alive? Just ignore them. It's just boring.

Ironic as I am myself commenting I know...

I'd be interested to know how many people subscribed to Sky Sports in 2008, compared to now.

Let's be honest, Billy could have quite easily made all this up. What right minded person could be bothered getting their abacus out and checking the sums? Even if I wanted to I wouldn't have the time! Have you considered night school?