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| Featherstones ground is big enough now to cope with super league before the new build,why it managed to accomadate the mighty cas and the woeful wigan easily enough
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"This is great news ON ITS OWN without all the bollax about SL. Why anyone would want to go into SL in its current form is beyond me. Go and look on the Cas, Salford, London, Widnes forums. Nothing but misery - go and have a look. Then look on the Bradford forum - it puts a massive cherry on the crapcake that is SL.
Well done Featherstone. Keep building, keep growing - however slight. One day your time and that of other clubs in The Championship will come.'"
viva la championship.........
seriously i would'nt wish super league on any fans
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| I don't doubt the quality of the top half of SL by the way. There are some great clubs up there and I'm still entertained by many matches on TV but to my mind there's some real dross in it. There's about 5 clubs that shouldn't be there but there's no other clubs of better quality to replace them.
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| Echo what's been said here.
It's all well and good Fev/Fax redevolping the ground and consistently winning silverware, but can't see them 'crowding' SL with further M62 teams
Sad really, but they want a national game and that's that.
Personally I think P&L (with more realistic salary caps for the 2nd division) and may the best team win!
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| Quote Stooper="Stooper"Echo what's been said here.
It's all well and good Fev/Fax redevolping the ground and consistently winning silverware, but can't see them 'crowding' SL with further M62 teams
Sad really, but they want a national game and that's that.
Personally I think P&L (with more realistic salary caps for the 2nd division) and may the best team win!'"
P&L?
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| Damn my finance brain.
P&R.
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| Quote Stooper="Stooper"Echo what's been said here.
It's all well and good Fev/Fax redevolping the ground and consistently winning silverware, but can't see them 'crowding' SL with further M62 teams
Sad really, but they want a national game and that's that.
Personally I think P&L (with more realistic salary caps for the 2nd division) and may the best team win!'"
How more realistic? , given the clubs central funding is being reduced, and no clubs are able to afford more than the current maximum ?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"How more realistic? , given the clubs central funding is being reduced, and no clubs are able to afford more than the current maximum ?'"
Reduce the gap.
In 2006, SL was 1.6m, NL1 was 400k.
The step up meant clubs releasing a lot of the players who'd got them promoted to fill them with 'SL' calibre players who cost more. Conversely clubs who'd go down would release the whole squad and buy in NL players who'd accept the wage structure.
The gulf needs to be reduced, but to a standard that SL & the (now) Championship can afford if we are to bring back P&R
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| Quote Stooper="Stooper"Reduce the gap.
In 2006, SL was 1.6m, NL1 was 400k.
The step up meant clubs releasing a lot of the players who'd got them promoted to fill them with 'SL' calibre players who cost more. Conversely clubs who'd go down would release the whole squad and buy in NL players who'd accept the wage structure.
The gulf needs to be reduced, but to a standard that SL & the (now) Championship can afford if we are to bring back P&R'"
Yes the gap needs to be reduced, how is the problem , the Championship/NL1 SC is now 250 K, and most clubs arent operating at that , so how?
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| I don't know.
A big paying sponsor (chortle) and the RFL distribute it evenly between SL & CH (guffaw).
We need to bridge the gap in terms of quality & revenue between the first and second divisions. But top end CH team can't pay SL wages. Much as I hate to bring it up, look at football. Swansea, Norwich, Reading, Stoke, Wigan....came up and hardly floundered without changing the structure.
Crusaders and Salford were given the first 'licences' and Crusaders have since fallen by the wayside, poor attendances/planning being their downfall. Salford are barely populating their shiny new stadium and Widnes sit bottom of the league, bringing in run of the mill SL/CH players who haven't made it elsewhere and hoping for the best.
Licensing isn't the answer, clearly, but P&R has so many variables that we can't change the system overnight and make it work
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| Quote Stooper="Stooper"I don't know.
We need to bridge the gap in terms of quality & revenue between the first and second divisions. But top end CH team can't pay SL wages. Much as I hate to bring it up, look at football. Swansea, Norwich, Reading, Stoke, Wigan....came up and hardly floundered without changing the structure.
Crusaders and Salford were given the first 'licences' and Crusaders have since fallen by the wayside, poor attendances/planning being their downfall. Salford are barely populating their shiny new stadium and Widnes sit bottom of the league, bringing in run of the mill SL/CH players who haven't made it elsewhere and hoping for the best.
Licensing isn't the answer, clearly, but P&R has so many variables that we can't change the system overnight and make it work'"
The RFL dont know either
It wasnt poor attendances and planning, they were nowhere near ready even in the NL s
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| Quote Stooper="Stooper"I don't know.
A big paying sponsor (chortle) and the RFL distribute it evenly between SL & CH (guffaw).
We need to bridge the gap in terms of quality & revenue between the first and second divisions. But top end CH team can't pay SL wages. Much as I hate to bring it up, look at football. Swansea, Norwich, Reading, Stoke, Wigan....came up and hardly floundered without changing the structure.
Crusaders and Salford were given the first 'licences' and Crusaders have since fallen by the wayside, poor attendances/planning being their downfall. Salford are barely populating their shiny new stadium and Widnes sit bottom of the league, bringing in run of the mill SL/CH players who haven't made it elsewhere and hoping for the best.
Licensing isn't the answer, clearly, but P&R has so many variables that we can't change the system overnight and make it work'"
Widnes have progressed as the season has gone on and are now giving play off sides a run for their money and in a few cases a beating so far from being a negative for Licensing I think they are showing it works but that the step up can not be overcome quickly and with P&R the panic buttons would be pressed much sooner and Betts could well have gone long before his hard work came to fruition.
All things being equal I'd prefer P&R but it would be a conveyorbelt of the side coming up spending a fortune to in all likelihood go straight back down and as you say we can not change the system over night and in reality over the next dozen years would be pushing it unless we lower the SL standards to such an extent it is little better than the Championship.
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