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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "This isn't just about SL, it's about the entire sport. From grass roots through to SL, the examples I used were because they were the ones I had to hand.'"
Well from looking at the posts, it seems to be about SL to me
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| Quote: Starbug "Well from looking at the posts, it seems to be about SL to me
Not intended to be, I guess it's just the easiest accessible figures. I think there was a post about RFL publishing figures about people playing at grass roots level?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "Not intended to be, I guess it's just the easiest accessible figures. I think there was a post about RFL publishing figures about people playing at grass roots level?'"
Yep, cockney kids having a RL lesson at school
Sorry , I shouldn't be so negative about things, but the ' game ' is growing, well some parts are, some aren't
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| Well, I'd say the fact that Sky are introducing Monday Night SL games after the football season ends shows that they think we're popular enough to fill a large gap on their schedules
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| I've noticed SL results getting greater prominence on the BBC Sport website also.
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| I might be wrong, but has every game so far been on Sky Sports 1 as well? That makes a bit of a difference.
Also, there are RL adverts on a lot more than there used to be on Sky, I was watching something the otherday for an hour, and there was the triple header advert every ad break.
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| I think in general, it probably is.
The saints TV game figure was particularly impressive, no doubt swelled by the fact it was the official opening game of the new stadium (curious onlookers), coupled that it was the only game played on Friday. Still very good though.
If we look at the individual components of the gameInternational
The 4 nations I think should be classed as a success. The crowds were pretty good, and there was decent terrestrial coverage on BBC, including a relatively successful return to Wembley. The exiles game could become an excellent additional fixture (or fixtures if expanded to a 2 or 3 game series) to the calendar. This year will be quiet of course, but with a World Cup looming, we have a massive opportunity to sell the International Game.
Super League
Attendances this year should be quite impressive. Saints should increase their average to around 13,000 hopefully, which is a 3000 jump from KR days, and almost double from last year at Widnes. Salford should be getting better crowds with their new stadium too. Wigan, Leeds and Wire should continue to get good crowds, whilst Hull and Bradford are still getting good crowds despite struggling on the pitch. Cas and Wakefields crowds last week were very promising too. Widnes should also get much better crowds than Crusaders did.
Competively speaking, there are 5 teams as I see that have a genuine chance of Silverware (Saints, Wire, Wigan, Leeds and Catalans), with a few others having an outside chance in the cup. This will hopefully fuel interest in the competition, and lead to more "big" games.
TV audience for Super league may be better too - the Monday night slot could get a larger audience than the Saturday slot, but it remains to be seen. Sky continue to give the game excellent coverage - 2 SL games a week, Origin and WCC, and 4 magazine shows (SL Fulltime, NRL Fulltime, SL Super Men, Boots'nAll). BBC's Super League show has had favourable comments regarding content, format and quality - it's just the broadcasting times that remains an issue, but nothing has really changed on that from previous years.
Challenge Cup
BBC's coverage of the cup reduces slightly, with only 1 game shown from the 4th and 5th rounds. The coverage on the BBC has certainly got better over recent years - Dave Woods is probably an improvement on Ray French, and the Red Button forum is pretty good. Claire Balding continues to impress with her enthusiasm and quality of her presentation (including some very good interviews with Richard Lewis). Not sure what the viewing figures were like last year. Attendance wise, the challenge cup seems to struggle still except for the final.
National Leagues / Northern Rail
This is probably the area of most concern. Whilst the competitions are pretty good in their own rights, not having automatic promotion certainly has had an impact. Numerous posters on here are known for their opinions on this, and I think it is a common one (may not be the majority opinion, but a significant number of fans feel dis-illusioned).
The TV coverage on Premier Sports will be interesting too - it's good that this level of the sport will have weekly TV coverage (plus the extensive NRL coverage on the same channel).
Amateur
This is a biggie - with the move to summer, there is a massive potential to attract more people to play the game. We also constantly hear good news about "expansion" areas, with new teams and competitions appearing.
So, overall, I would say the popularity is increasing. There are areas to work on, as always, but at the moment, rugby league is in a pretty good place. The amatuer move to summer, and world cup next year, are massive opportunities to attract a lot more people to the game.
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| The Tv figures are amazing, considering the first game had a 1hour build up. I'd imagine the match average would have been 350K+.
The thing that always annoys me is the play offs. There needs to be a reduced price ticket deal offered.
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| People praising the RFL need to think again. The sport is growing in participation, viewing figures and attendances seems to be the conclusion from the do gooders on here.
So why then could the RFL not negotiate a improved TV deal or a competition sponsorship deal worth any money at all?
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| Quote: Saddened! "People praising the RFL need to think again. The sport is growing in participation, viewing figures and attendances seems to be the conclusion from the do gooders on here.
So why then could the RFL not negotiate a improved TV deal or a competition sponsorship deal worth any money at all?'"
In the same notion I question as to why you couldn't negotiate arm rests for your seat?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: hotpot100 "Quote: hotpot100 "
Challenge Cup
BBC's coverage of the cup reduces slightly, with only 1 game shown from the 4th and 5th rounds. The coverage on the BBC has certainly got better over recent years - Dave Woods is probably an improvement on Ray French, and the Red Button forum is pretty good. Claire Balding continues to impress with her enthusiasm and quality of her presentation (including some very good interviews with Richard Lewis). Not sure what the viewing figures were like last year. Attendance wise, the challenge cup seems to struggle still except for the final.
National Leagues / Northern Rail
This is probably the area of most concern. Whilst the competitions are pretty good in their own rights, not having automatic promotion certainly has had an impact. Numerous posters on here are known for their opinions on this, and I think it is a common one (may not be the majority opinion, but a significant number of fans feel dis-illusioned).
The TV coverage on Premier Sports will be interesting too - it's good that this level of the sport will have weekly TV coverage (plus the extensive NRL coverage on the same channel).
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So less likely that any non SL clubs will feature in the clubs oldest competition , and yet the BBC actively look for giant killing ties in the FA cup
Explain to me how , having TV coverage during the week on a channel nobody has access to that earns the clubs nothing is a ' Good ' thing ?
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| Quote: Saddened! "People praising the RFL need to think again. The sport is growing in participation, viewing figures and attendances seems to be the conclusion from the do gooders on here.
So why then could the RFL not negotiate a improved TV deal or a competition sponsorship deal worth any money at all?'"
They did. Its worth significantly more than the last deal.
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| Quote: Starbug "So less likely that any non SL clubs will feature in the clubs oldest competition , and yet the BBC actively look for giant killing ties in the FA cup
Explain to me how , having TV coverage during the week on a channel nobody has access to that earns the clubs nothing is a ' Good ' thing ?'"
The BBC doesn't have rights to the FA Cup (not even highlights) and hasn't for a few years now.
Is it better than clubs having no TV coverage at all, which was the alternative?
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| Good post hotpot. Especially re amateur. The amateur game has failed spectacularly over the last couple of decades in almost every respect. Hopefully a more positive and pro-active approach like the move to summer and the spread of the amateur game into new areas will bring lots of benefits including increased participation and exposure.
Also another good move in my opinion is the setting up of regional coaching associations where the SL club takes responsibility for the coaching in its area instead of relying on overworked RFL Development officers who are better deployed to "non-SL" areas. I'm more positive about the amateur game now than I ever have been.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "The BBC doesn't have rights to the FA Cup (not even highlights) and hasn't for a few years now.Is it better than clubs having no TV coverage at all, which was the alternative?'"
Ok , sorry I meant whatever broadcaster has the current rights to show it , they actively look for potential giant killing games , its called the ' romance of the cup ' , now highly unlikely any clubs outside SL will be shown
WHY , is it better than no coverage at all , do you think the SL clubs would be happy to play midweek and be televised on essentially a ' pay per view ' channel and recieve nothing for it ?
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