He isn't a full back. Simple as that. He does silly challenges that a seasoned full back wouldn't. I would say nearly all of his silly play comes when he is playing stand off and full back. don't know why, he just seems to have a brain fart. I can't remember him doing so many silly things playing , which is and always should have been his position.

Less tattoo parlours and hair dressers and a few more anger management classes.'"

He's got his good side ... Got Leeds to Wembley !

He did stop a certain try in the semi with an awesome tackle on his own tryline!

Have I just read that right?

A Wigan fan, complaining about coaches who don't deal with dirty play?

Pass me the needle and cotton, my sides are splitting.

Hands up everyone who's surprised yet another Wigan player got away with trying to injure a grounded opponent this week.

I wasn't surprised as there was nothing wrong with the Harrison Hansen tackle

Another thread being derailed into a Wigan-bashing session

That was Danny McGuire going down like he'd been shot by a Russian sniper.

You'd think he'd have learned his lesson at the end of last season wouldn't you.

I do hope that's not a poor attempt at a joke based on a player suffering what could have been a career ending injury.

He recovered didn't he? Jeez some people are sooooo sensitive...

Now now Gilder, lets not get off topic. That Sam Tomkins, what a cheat he is etc.

Ironic?

Cast your mind back 8 years and Leon Pryce did exactly the same thing to Wigans main threat in the 2003 GF