I thought that was what he did to Kevin Sinfield twice the other year conning the ref in to giving Wigan penalties by suggesting Sinfield wasn't letting him get up when in fact he was holding Sinfield's jersey.

I'm trying to remember the last time a thread on the VT didn't descend into a Tomkins-bashing session. It'd be funny if it didn't scupper any chance of having a decent discussion about things. I think this has been an issue for quite a while. Players used to get pinged quite often for moving off the mark but it's been a long time since that happened. I think Leeds scored against Catalans from such an incident yesterday. Can't remember who the culprit was but they crawled forward whilst on the floor and into the tackler, giving them no chance to clear the ruck, yet the tackler is penalised for it. It's a rule that needs to be enforced properly

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SL needs to sort out a lot of issues around the PTB - commentators here often joke about SL players not needing to face the opposition line when playing the ball. The sorts of things you can get away with in SL will be absolutely caned by an Aussie ref.

Its Wigan's fault.

Cheats.

Wasn't the VT united in calling for Sam Tomkins to be sinbinned against Leeds the other week after he fell victim to this very rouse?

no its called winning the floor and shudds desperately clinging on to prevent a quick ptb, you'll find this out next year when you come up and teams are walking through your pack.

No it's called moving off the Mark.

I agree, it's getting very boring now. I don't understand all the hate he gets, it can only be jealousy.

As much as I find that little grub Tomkin annoying, Lee Smith is the main offender in the league for moving off the mark. So we can leave the lad alone in this thread.

One of my major rants at games it that it is always the defending side that gets penalised for play of the ball infringements. An attacking player can riggle, clamp arms, throw out arms, elbows, legs and still not give away a penalty. Infact by doing one or all of these things he is more likely to recieve one. I just get the feeling that some referees call held count to three and blow the whistle. There is no evidence that any thought is even given to who is actually at fault.

Poor attempt Saddo, and only 1 bite, 2/10 for effort.

He has to do something to gain some yards!! Have you seen his stats for this week?

CORRECT!

Winning the floor is about getting onto your hands & needs (go 'ed Cullen) and getting up for the quick play the ball. Crawlingforward should technically be gaining yards after the tackle which isn't allowed.