Tom has tremendous potential for an 18 year old. Different style of player to Sam but he could be just as good if looked after properly.

Haven't seen George play. Luke is a first grade player who will benefit hugely from a move to the NRL. It will bring that extra bit out of him. Was Ellis considered the best when he went, or Mark Flanagan? It's the environment that makes all the difference.

Luke has been in great form this season, one of Leeds' best props in fact.

Hetherington offered him a new deal and gave him a 3 day deadline to sign it. Luke asked for more time, so Hetherington pulled the deal off the table and he hasn't played for Leeds since (Ian Kirke is one lucky sod).

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If Ben Cross managed 95 NRL appearances and 2 State of Origin games then I think Luke Burgess (or any other decent English prop for that matter) should be OK

Was going to say that. We seem to have this impression that the NRL has 17 benji Marshall's in each squad. There are some very average and poor players in the NRL too. Mark flanagan joined Wests, usually a sub and there were all these calls for him to get an England jersey!! He didn't really do much apart from tackle and keep hold of the ball. He was solid and people wanted him in an international jersey!! Sometimes we belittle our competition and players too much.

If he could manage to do that for England it would be an improvement on some of the dross peddled out by the national side in recent years

having made the world 13 before he went to the NRL.....erm....yeah he probably was


and spot on bull mania

As the majority of Leeds fans will tell you, he has been far from poor and looked to be one of the best props this season and up there with Kylie and Peacock (excepting that Peacock is still far from his previous best). He hasn't struggled to get in to the Leeds teams because of his form, he hasn't being picked to play it would appear... which is different!

im sure hell do well here

Spot on and as most Leeds fans will tell you, Burgess has made steady progress in the side and was really starting to look the part early season. I don't think he has as much 'natural' talent as Sam but he is still a good player and if he carries on improving he will go well in the NRL and may end up in an England jersey in a couple of seasons.

World 13?? Compare Ellis pre NRL to what he is now.

Average and poor relative to NRL standards, but not to SL. Look at how many NRL nobodies are playing in SL. That's what belittles the SL and players brought through here. Not what someone might 'think'.

Yes, he was much better attacking player before he went to the NRL (as was Morley before him)