When Chris Joynt deliberately fell to the floor, without a hand being laid on him with about 10secs to go. Brafurt should have had a penalty from a kick-able spot and would have won the game.

One more victory for the masters of sly St Smellys.

That is exactly the reason.

Just to make Wheels' day...

The Chris Joynt incident didnt deserve a penalty. Discuss.

To me a voluntary tackle is one of those offenses which should not be penalised every time. It is not important enough to pull up every single time, just like a slight offside, holding down or an incorrect ptb. Instead the referee should warn the team not to do it again and should only blow for repeat offenses.

Therefore, Joynt is spared from being the man whose actions wrongly decided a whole season's worth of RL fixtures.

Now the case is closed we can move on.

1) it's not a tackle. voluntary or otherwise.

2) they are penalised - by a scrum with head and feed going to the opposition

Sam Tomkins is the king of the voluntary tackle, goes to ground like a good un.

could be wrong but im sure a wigan player just fell on a ball on his line and stayed down without being touched with hull players pointing it out to the ref late on in the 86 cup final.no pen was given then,and ive never seen one given since anyway.
it is cheating in my eyes,but then so is a forward pass and players feigning foul play at the play the ball,and a lot of that goes unpunished

He certainly doesn't like being tackled does he? As soon as a hand is laid on him he hits the deck.

I'm not sure now if it was clear what I was on about.

Should someone who catches a ball from a kick off and deliberately runs/carries the ball into touch for no other reason than to use up the remaining few seconds of a game, be penalised for doing so. Almost as you would for a voluntary tackle.

Interesting theory, could provoke a lot of discussion.

I think that the voluntary tackle should be enforced, also deliberatly pushing the ball out of play behind the touch in goal should be penalised. My reasoning for this is (in my opinion) that the players of both sides should be required to keep the ball & their selfs in play at all times. diving to the ground just over the try line stops the player being pushed back into goal or touch it also prevents a one on one ball steal it kills off variables in the game. It is also my opinion that a player should make all eforts to control the ball in the in goal & attempt to return the ball into the field of play. It is for the same reason I would penalise a ball kicked dead in goal. As barrie Mac keeps saying keep the ball on the island.