TBh we played well for about 17mins out of 80! at 18-0 if Roby hadn;t got that bounce and NZ had scored again it could have got very messy.

So, now you are saying that New Zealand are not really the World Champions. What hell does 'not a current reality' mean, of course they are world champions and will be until the next world cup

You really do have a tentative grasp on reality don't you?

This looks like a pretty solid Kiwi side - that should beat Australia as easily as they beat us - will they?

That's the enigma that is Kiwi RL

The Kiwis are World Champions, but aren't the best team in the world.

Widdop 4 - Way out of his depth. Poor in defence, looked unfortortable under the high ball and showed nothing going forward
Goulding 5 - Again way out of his depth. An average club winger who has had a good season in a strong wigan team but shouldnt have been anyway near an international jersey
Shenton 7 - looked our best 3 quarter. Strong in defence + showed pace in attack
Atkins 4 - looked disinterested
Briscoe 6 - actually looked quite good. Deceptively strong going forward and in defence
Brown 4 - Way out of his depth. Poor in defence, woeful with ball in hand and kicking game was aweful
S Tomkins 7 - only dangerous player on the field for England
Fielden 5 - very average. Showed no aggression and made a poor error in the 1st half
Roby 6 - Not a starting hooker and is much better of the bench. Played ok is 1 of the few players that can play at this standard
Graham 5 - worked hard but not international standard. Not agressive in the tackle and lacks size at this level
Ellis 5 - hugely disappointing. Needed him to lead from the front went missing.
Burgess 4 - massive let down. Looked disinterested. No big hits. Poor work rate and again went missing when we needed him to lead from the front.
O'Loughlin 5 - again went missing. Not big enough or agressive at this level. thought he had his best season by a mile for wigan and his most average performance for england to date
Robinson 6 - tried hard but not up to this standard.
Griffin 4 - way out of his depth. How he got selected above Lynch, Coley and Scruton his baffling. Been average for Huddersfield all season and for such a big lump he plays well below his weight.
Westwood 6 - thought he looked 1 of our strongest forwards in the tackle but always gives penalties away because hes as thick as 2 planks + was pathetic in defence for the Shaun Kenny Dowall try
J Tomkins 5 - not enough game time to make any comment

Good point. Can you aussies stop going on about the Americas Cup now please.

Widdop 3
Goulding 4
Shenton 7
Atkins 3
Briscoe 7
Brown 6
S Tomkins 7
Fielden 3
Roby 5
Graham 7
Ellis 7
Burgess 6
O'Loughlin 6
Robinson 7
Griffin 6
Westwood 7
J Tomkins 5

Next Week

S Tomkins
Goulding
Gleeson (If Atkins is injured send him home and get M Gleeson out there)
Shenton
Briscoe
O'Loughlin
Roby
Carvel
Lunt
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Robinson
J Tomkins
Crabtree
Griffin

PMSL







Huddersfield fan by any chance.

When did they mention it lately?

You are wrong on Griffin he has been very good for Huddersfield all season.

Your ratings have no credibility once you gave Fielden more points than Griffin.

Fielden was the worst prop on the field.