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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in,
You take your Brownie out,
You put your Bennett in,
And you make it to the 8,
You do the Oki Chokie,
And you get knocked out,
Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t]
[quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!!
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| Quote: SouthStanderDave "Oh the brightside, Wrexham Crusader's ground looks kinda nice.
Most of you lot can count yourself lucky you'll never have to experience Rodney Parade anyway.'"
I've been saying that for months mate.
Glad someone else agrees with me.
What a dump that place was |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: tb "Businessmen waving wads of cash in non-traditional areas Businessmen waving wads of cash in traditional areas
Businessman walking away from club in non-traditional area
There have been many arguments on thie board pointing out the potential problems with this , by fans of heartland clubs , I dont care how rich anybody is , a club with a self sustaing fan base is more secure than one person with a large financial input and few fans
Any business with one customer is at risk more than a business with 1,000's of customers
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "I've been saying that for months mate.
Glad someone else agrees with me.
What a dump that place was'"
Barry , who cares what a ground looks like , if it is fit for the purpose of watching sport and safe it doesn't matter |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: tb "Businessmen waving wads of cash in non-traditional areas more sympathetic to what's being experienced by the Crusaders club – having been through it themselves.
But apparently it doesn't work like that, for some at least.'"
I think you will find a lot of sympathy for the Celtic Crusader club , what you dont understand is that the club IS the fans , the criticism is mostly aimed at the RFL for blindly putting them into SL , there is also criticism [ partly unjustified because his circumstances have changed , as has happened to many of us ] of mr Samuels , who probably should have declined promotion to SL |
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2015 - major missed opportunity, 2016 - stronger teams = harder task (no problem there then), 2017 - OMG What now!!!:953.jpg |
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The only reason he got involved was because he was promised a SL place and I think he has stated as such in an interview
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[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: tb "Businessmen waving wads of cash in non-traditional areas
So there's absolutely no difference, whatsoever, between the Celtic Crusaders and the Widnes Vikings?
They were always equally viable, and the fan base and infrastructure which the Widnes Vikings already have in place is totally meaningless?
Do you really think that the Widnes Vikings would struggle just to get through one season of a 3 year licence, and have to move 100 miles and set up another club to save themselves?
Do you really believe that Steve O’Connor is a lying crook, like the previous owner of Widnes, and that he is no different than Leighton Samuel, who has a history of walking out on rugby clubs?
Because, for your post to make sense, you would have to answer yes to all of that and more. 
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[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: DemonUK "The only reason he got involved was because he was promised a SL place and I think he has stated as such in an interview'"
Correct!
And then the RFL just fast tracked then through the leagues, on the back of illegal Australian imports, and put them in SL whether they were ready or not. Because they promised LS that this is what they would do. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Pepe "So there's absolutely no difference, whatsoever, between the Celtic Crusaders and the Widnes Vikings?'" In principle, no
Quote: Pepe "They were always equally viable, and the fan base and infrastructure which the Widnes Vikings already have in place is totally meaningless?'" this is something completely different
Quote: Pepe "
Do you really think that the Widnes Vikings would struggle just to get through one season of a 3 year licence, and have to move 100 miles and set up another club to save themselves?'" this is something else which is completely different
Quote: Pepe "
Do you really believe that Steve O’Connor is a lying crook, like the previous owner of Widnes, and that he is no different than Leighton Samuel, who has a history of walking out on rugby clubs?'" and this again is completely different
Quote: Pepe "Because, for your post to make sense, you would have to answer yes to all of that and more. ![]()
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Pepe "Correct!
And then the RFL just fast tracked then through the leagues, on the back of illegal Australian imports, and put them in SL whether they were ready or not. Because they promised LS that this is what they would do.'"
And this is a lie.
Whats strange is its a lie that everyone knows isnt true, which makes me wonder why you would bother with it |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "And this is a lie.
Whats strange is its a lie that everyone knows isnt true, which makes me wonder why you would bother with it'"
So the truth is what ? |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "So the truth is what ?'" The RFL approached Samuel to see if he wanted to set up a club in south wales, he did, so he set one up, Crusaders were given special dispensation for overseas players (along with Hull KR, Castleford, Salford, Gateshead and Toulouse over the past few years), They progressed through the leagues through promotion and relegation and were given a franchise through the franchise process. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The RFL approached Samuel to see if he wanted to set up a club in south wales, he did, so he set one up, Crusaders were given special dispensation for overseas players (along with Hull KR, Castleford, Salford, Gateshead and Toulouse over the past few years), They progressed through the leagues through promotion and relegation and were given a franchise through the franchise process.'"
You missed out the bits about ileagal immigrants and a non existant salary cap |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "]
You missed out the bits about ileagal immigrants and a non existant salary cap'"
they werent illegal immigrants, they just didnt hold the correct work permit, something which Crusaders involvement hasnt yet proved to be anything other than completely above board. Neither have they been proved to have broken any Salary Cap they were/should have been under. |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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Quote: SmokeyTA "they werent illegal immigrants, they just didnt hold the correct work permit, something which Crusaders involvement hasnt yet proved to be anything other than completely above board. Neither have they been proved to have broken any Salary Cap they were/should have been under.'"
Leighton Samuels stated in the press that he was approached, by representatives of the RFL, and asked to set up a club for a place in SL in 3 years. He called it ‘The 3 year plan’.
[i‘The United Kingdom Borders Agency (UKBA) stopped short of issuing criminal charges against the Wales-based club but made it clear that they had been irresponsible in not checking the eligibility of the Australian contingent that includes former Queensland State of Origin centre Josh Hannay.’[/i
www.bigpondsport.com/news/tabid/ ... fault.aspx
They were playing RL here illegally for the Celtic Crusaders. Not one, but six players. Accident? Oversight? No chance! |
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Quote: SmokeyTA "they werent illegal immigrants, they just didnt hold the correct work permit, something which Crusaders involvement hasnt yet proved to be anything other than completely above board. Neither have they been proved to have broken any Salary Cap they were/should have been under.'"
Leighton Samuels stated in the press that he was approached, by representatives of the RFL, and asked to set up a club for a place in SL in 3 years. He called it ‘The 3 year plan’.
[i‘The United Kingdom Borders Agency (UKBA) stopped short of issuing criminal charges against the Wales-based club but made it clear that they had been irresponsible in not checking the eligibility of the Australian contingent that includes former Queensland State of Origin centre Josh Hannay.’[/i
www.bigpondsport.com/news/tabid/ ... fault.aspx
They were playing RL here illegally for the Celtic Crusaders. Not one, but six players. Accident? Oversight? No chance! | |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "they werent illegal immigrants, they just didnt hold the correct work permit, something which Crusaders involvement hasnt yet proved to be anything other than completely above board. Neither have they been proved to have broken any Salary Cap they were/should have been under.'"
So they were working in this country legally ?
As for the salary cap , considering we had a 50 % rule at the time and considering the comments Mr Samuels has since made , I'll make my own mind up on that rather than yours or the RFL 's |
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