Well done Warrington really deserved win and showed how you need to play in a big final.

The early decision not to go to the screen though was very poor. It would have changed the whole complexion of the game and who knows how it would have played out if Saints go 6-0 up early.

You mean 4-0 up, you never know, he might of missed a straight forward conversion....

Don't agree on either point.
Abide With Me is a tradition very worth keeping.
Sung loud and proud around me.

Wembley is the pinnacle. Let's just work on filling it.

Yes but most games are boring these days - formulaic play. Players may be quicker and stronger than in the past but with very few exceptions it’s played by players of average ability. Watch the video of 1966 Saints and compare the quality of player and goalkicking, then to now. It’s sad to see how the sport has declined with less people playing in traditional RL towns and lack of world class sporting talent from other sports. The final yesterday was poor in my view, not helped by dire refereeing in the first 15 minutes. The second game’s first half was way better before Widnes completely fell away.

I think a large part of lower attendances is playing it on the August Bank Holiday weekend when people are under pressure to do things with the family. Also it’s the time of year when most families take holidays and are either away or broke after getting back.

You need to install a stairlift?

Has anyone seen as108 or lebrunne this weekend?

Have you tried scouring the Lake District?

I don't think the new Wembley has the same appeal as the old Wembley. August BH weekend is also a terrible date to have it with so many other things going on. I know in Halifax there used to be a lot of trips from various amateur teams, social clubs, pubs etc. I only knew of 1 this year.

I think if you aim low you just get lower. Playing semi finals in smaller and smaller stadia in the early 2000s did not boost attendances.

Rugby Union makes its traditions part of its appeal, you don't attract new fans by ripping up your history. It's a bit like the church of England trying to grow its congregations by installing helter skelters.

Real saints fans (not Internet trolls) have been posting regularly and congratulating Warrington. Most don't frequent this forum but if you look at redvee you will see most of us can see that in big games since 2014 we are chokers.

I get why people mention tradition and the old Wembley then yes it should never be moved but this new place is soulless and I know they’ve signed yet another contract for the place but crowds are dwindling and it looks shocking on tv and being there.

It’s time to wake up and move it say to Cardiff say for 25 years and have done with it

I like Wembley. London is far easier to get to from across the north by train than Cardiff is. I also liked having my pick of seats in the upper tier. I sat on row one, which wasn't where the ticket was for, and is a brilliant view. It's traditional and there's nothing wrong with it, so keep it there.

Like the rest of the Saints fans, they seem to afraid to speak or support their side dont want to wake them