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| Is 1million pound enough to have a full time squad of 25 players? That doesn't sound much for a salary, 40k avg? Be interesting to see how many clubs can generate enough revenue to pay up to 1million on the squad. Gives clubs with money backers an opportunity I guess. Wonder if there are any French clubs capable of generating that much revenue?
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| Quote: FoxyDread "Irrelevant now.
Where would i have the big divide, is also irrelevant as I wouldn't be going with this new format. Of the 9 current championship teams who will be in next seasons championship they are enabling two teams to be competitive in the regular season, the rest will have to do something out of the ordinary to get close to the top four in the opening 23 games.
Championship teams that can afford to go full time will just hoover up the best of the talent from rival clubs, only players who want to remain part time because of outside interests will resist. Full time training will improve their standards relative to the rest of the league giving them a further advantage. They have created a new glass ceiling for the rest of the competition and it now happens four places into the second tier instead of at the top of the second tier. Things are worse for the all but two championship clubs.'"
The new structure places a ' stepping stone ' between part time Championship clubs and a full time SL with a 1.8 million salary cap , when I first heard of the system, my 1 st reaction was the potential damage done to the credibility of the Championship, but ultimatly it does open up SL to those clubs that can earn or attract income
The challenge is there for all clubs, hopefully enough will rise to it
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| Quote: Mr Churchill "The new structure is as we know actually very simple and will be brilliant for the game in this country.
All supporters don't actually need to get it now, in one go.
As always, just turn and support your team and try to get a win every match.
Once the 2015 season starts to unfold, it will be very clear to all supporters match by match how their club is doing.
What percentage of those who are interested in soccer could explain today how the Champions League will work - from qualifiers to group stages to knock-out, for example. Not many people could - but who cares? It doesn't matter.'"
The Champions League is far, far simpler to grasp than our new league structure.
Have you tried explaining the 2x12 and 3x8 system to any non RL fans yet, people are certainly surprised by it's complexity.
Even on threads like this one, not everyone is clear on what will happen and this forum is generally used by people who think they have a decent knowledge of the game.
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| There is nothing to say that if there is an increase in revenue that other teams in future years will not get more money.
As I said pages back no matter the structure there will be those who moan at the top and bottom.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "The Champions League is far, far simpler to grasp than our new league structure.
Have you tried explaining the 2x12 and 3x8 system to any non RL fans yet, people are certainly surprised by it's complexity.
Even on threads like this one, not everyone is clear on what will happen and this forum is generally used by people who think they have a decent knowledge of the game.'"
What are you struggling to grasp about the new system?
And explain the qualifying process for the Champions League...
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| I explained it to my soccer loving mates at work who thought it was a great idea
What this will do is create a logical pathway to have two full time tens in a few years as it allows the second tier clubs to develop a FT structure with increased funding and the dream that attracts fans and sponsors
Toulouse need to enter asap then another French club a couple of years later
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| It really is simple, build your Championship club financially and you will get a chance to enter SL irrelivant of location and past history
Dont build your SL club financially and you could get relegated irrelivant of location and past history
Its called proffessional sport
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| Quote: Nothus "There will only be 12 championship sides next year...'"
Guess I need to to scrub up on my times tables
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "What are you struggling to grasp about the new system?
And explain the qualifying process for the Champions League...'"
You probably need to read it through again.
Simple would be 1 up 1 down or 2 up 2 down.
Just a simple question for you though.
How long do you think that the game will stick with the new system.
5 years, 10 years or for the foreseeable future ?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "How long do you think that the game will stick with the new system.
5 years, 10 years or for the foreseeable future ?'"
Who can actually answer that ridiculous question?
I'm keeping open minded with it - unlike a lot of people on here - I can see the benefits of it but also the negatives. Who knows what will happen. We will only know once we see it in action.
This ludicrous 'it's too complicated' BS is embarrassing. It's pretty simple really.
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| Quote: Starbug "It really is simple, build your Championship club financially and you will get a chance to enter SL irrelivant of location and past history
Dont build your SL club financially and you could get relegated irrelivant of location and past history
Its called proffessional sport'"
That's a bit simplistic, for years and years teams have struggled to get on a sound financial footing. Growth comes through success in all sports. If the top four of the Championship becomes a closed shop as I firmly believe it will it's very hard how the teams perceived to be failing in the Championship will grow their gates enough to compete financially.
This will kill any hope of realistic progression for all but two of the current Championship sides.
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| Quote: Albion "Who can actually answer that ridiculous question?
I'm keeping open minded with it - unlike a lot of people on here - I can see the benefits of it but also the negatives. Who knows what will happen. We will only know once we see it in action.
This ludicrous 'it's too complicated' BS is embarrassing. It's pretty simple really.'"
I don't see it as too complicated
It's just over complicated and designed to ensure that "every minute of every match in every competition matters" which itself is BS.
The big 4 will "manage" their squads, just as they have for a number of years and once it becomes clear who the top 8 are going to be there will be some games where the outcome is not important (just as we have with the top 8, under the current system).
If the game is serious about "meaningful competition" then a way needs to be found to have a more equal distribution of funds, with equal amounts given to the teams in the top flight and equal amounts given to he teams in the 2nd tier and, for a club that finishes in 9th in SL (possibly by only 1 o 2 points) to be labelled as "qualifiers" and need to fight for their SL survival is just plain ridiculous.
I know that we have 14 clubs in SL at present and that Bradford and London are likely to be relegated but, if next season is similar, with the bottom 2 clubs on very few points and the cubs in positions 9 & 10 on somewhere around 12-14 points, they shouldn't start the next phase of the competition on 0.
Of course there are 5 clubs in the Championship at present, who face relegation and their supporters must be totally enamoured with the whole concept, but its best not to think about them too much isn't it.
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| Quote: FoxyDread "That's a bit simplistic, for years and years teams have struggled to get on a sound financial footing. Growth comes through success in all sports. If the top four of the Championship becomes a closed shop as I firmly believe it will it's very hard how the teams perceived to be failing in the Championship will grow their gates enough to compete financially.
This will kill any hope of realistic progression for all but two of the current Championship sides.'"
So thats 2 more than we currently have
Until Mrs Koucash buys Swinton
You like me has no idea exactly how this will ' pan out ', we'll just have to wait and see
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You probably need to read it through again.
Simple would be 1 up 1 down or 2 up 2 down.
Just a simple question for you though.
How long do you think that the game will stick with the new system.
5 years, 10 years or for the foreseeable future ?'"
Probably until a few championship clubs go bust chasing a FT dream on crowds of 1200 and we see 60point thrashing a in the middle eight comp with diminished SL crowds for those SL teams dropped down into it creating financial difficulties for the 4 SL clubs. I'd give it 4-7 years tops.
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| Quote: FoxyDread "That's a bit simplistic, for years and years teams have struggled to get on a sound financial footing. Growth comes through success in all sports. If the top four of the Championship becomes a closed shop as I firmly believe it will it's very hard how the teams perceived to be failing in the Championship will grow their gates enough to compete financially.
This will kill any hope of realistic progression for all but two of the current Championship sides.'"
So thats 2 more than we currently have
Until Mrs Koucash buys Swinton
You like me has no idea exactly how this will ' pan out ', we'll just have to wait and see
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