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Quote: A unknown superstar "Tbf I'd take more note of how he's regarded in the NRL week in week out rather than the odd games he's plays for England each season. The only thing against him this season when considering him playing for England is he's missed alot due to injury. Hocks a great player but he isn't as good as Ellis. Saying that, the both of them are quite abit ahead of the next best English backrower imo.'"



westwood?????????

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Quote: Him " I know most go on a 4 year cycle but I don't see why we can't have a 5 year cycle.'"


Presumably because it avoids overlaps in key events?
4 Year Cycle from 2010 - Football World Cup/Commonwealth/Winter Olympics etc
4 Year Cycle from 2011 - Rugby Union WC
4 Year Cycle from 2012 - Olympics, Football Euros etc
4 Year Cycle from 2013 - Rugby League World Cup

On a 5 year cycle we clash
2018 - Football etc
2023 - Union etc
2028 - Olympics etc

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Jack Reed
Ryan Atkins
Ryan Hall

Gareth Widdop
Jonny Lomax

Sam Burgess
James Roby
James Graham

Gareth Ellis
Gareth Hock
Sean O'Loughlin

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Seriously, people picking Lomax over Brough or any other scrum half for that matter.

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Quote: wolfinwidnes "westwood?????????'"

I'd say so yes.

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I just think Roby needs to be on the pitch for the full 80 and there are other hookers England would benefit from.
Roby can still take the od scoot from the ptb. He is that good that he could outplay a lot of players in there own position.

Burrow or Robinson from the bench is a must.
Maybe then moving roby to 13 is an option but there is certainly no reason to take roby off the field.

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Atkins / watkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Mcclurum
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
Roby

Crabtree
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If people want Both Engalnd and the Lions to play, how about...

European Tri Nations, with England, France and Wales
(and a emergining European nations cup with Ireland, Scotland and Italy or Russia)...during the season with winner plays the Exiles and then after that have a 2 match test series withGreat Britain and France.
Least you can be able to see both Engalnd and the Lions play

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And I know about the 'Sport England' funding.
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obviously you don't........sport england said it did'nt matter if we play as england or GB....as both teams would be considered the "national team".....


as for wales,scotland & ireland going backward icon_lol.gif clueless

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Quote: roughyedspud "obviously you don't........sport england said it did'nt matter if we play as england or GB....as both teams would be considered the "national team".....


as for wales,scotland & ireland going backward Go on then smart, explain how only competing as England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland benefits everybody. How we're all stronger for it.

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Playing as GB is the only way you might attract interest from families in scotland, Wales and N ireland. The typical middle aged 'mummy' who has no real interest in the sport but still likes to be seen supporting GB could boost gates when we play international fixtures. This is shown through the likes of Murray who when conveyed as doing it for GB generates interest from those who otherwise wouldn't care, they only care if they have someone to support. Especially with the olympics, Murray's success in wimbledon, the jubilee etc this is the best time to press forward the concept of getting behind the rugby league team too.

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If for no other reason!



as opposed to this



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Quote: A unknown superstar "Seriously, people picking Lomax over Brough or any other scrum half for that matter.'"


Barring a great kicking game, Danny Brough doesn't offer a great deal. Does he create with ball in hand?

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I think Watkins showed Defensively why he should be in Yesterday. That 2nd half he was outstanding and any breaks Wigan made in the 1st half were all down to Jamie Jones-Buchanans inability to keep an eye in what's happening in front of him. He's also one of the best attacking centres I have ever seen. His footwork just bofore he hits the line confuses people no ends up. He scores and creates tries that look easy in the end but it's only because his footwork is that good that it looks this way.

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Quote: rhinos21 "Agreed for me it's hall + 1 for England and that one in my opinion should be charnley

Tomkins

Charnley
Watkins
Reed
Hall

Widdop
??? Lomas

Graham
Roby
Mossop

Hock
Westwood
Burgess'"


After yesterday sinfield burrow and McGuire all showed they still should be in the mix, also bjb is a serious challenger to charnley and briscoe for the other wing spot

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Im not sure he is. I think Charnley and Briscoe are a class above BJB imo. Sinfield's underrated by all but Leeds fans, i'd play Widdop but I can certainly see McN's plan in playing a British based player of Sinfields quality in such a key position. Is he the best int class 6 we've had? No but I don't think he let anyone down in the internationals.

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