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Quote: dally messenger "if franchising wasnt around barrow wouldve gotten into SL and widnes missed out

how can this be a good thing for the future of the english game?'"


So a club in an area 100 miles away from any other SL club with a benefactor willing to put money into that club would have been bad for the British game ?

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You ignored this one , so I'll give you another go

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rather than wasting money on winning the championship
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Interesting concept , so all clubs that attempt to win the competition they are in are wasting their money ?

Or is it that you like everybody else see's a lower tier without Promotion and Relegation as worthless ?

If that is the case then maybe the time for the clubs in it to switch back to Rugby Union '"
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Away you go

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Quote: Starbug "Only if the RFL guarantee a Championship club will go up [ and an English/British club at that ] every three years , I seriously doubt they will do that

'Weakest heartland club ' , so you admit it is all about expansion , as you know ,I know , the whole RL world knows that there are clubs outside the heartlands that are weaker than every one in the heartlands

Quins have had decades to get it right'"


its not just about expansion, but yes, protecting expansion clubs from relegation is important.

its also about getting clubs like cas, wakey and salford new grounds

its about clubs improving their marketing and crowds

clubs investing in juniors

most english clubs have failed so the RFL is basically forcing them, and the ones that cant lose their SL spots

it also means that if championship clubs want to get into SL they have do more than just win the grand final. they also have to think about juniors, marketing etc.

franchising gives clubs 3 years to prove they are worth a spot or they get booted out.

why wouldnt the RFL keep changing teams every 3 years? thats what keeps clubs honest.

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Quote: Starbug "So a club in an area 100 miles away from any other SL club with a benefactor willing to put money into that club would have been bad for the British game ?'"


barrow in their current state are not fit for SL.

their ground is a dump.
their finances are poor.

indeed i seriously doubt they ever will be fit for SL.

barrow in SL is taking the game backwards.

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Quote: Starbug "You ignored this one , so I'll give you another go

Away you go'"


once widnes had satisfied the criteria re winning the champ. / NR cup they didnt need to waste any more money on players which is essentially wasted

having ticked that box they concentrated on the other areas of their franchise like the juniors and their crowds.

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Quote: dally messenger "its not just about expansion, but yes, protecting expansion clubs from relegation is important.

its also about getting clubs like cas, wakey and salford new grounds

its about clubs improving their marketing and crowds

clubs investing in juniors

most english clubs have failed so the RFL is basically forcing them, and the ones that cant lose their SL spots

it also means that if championship clubs want to get into SL they have do more than just win the grand final. they also have to think about juniors, marketing etc.

franchising gives clubs 3 years to prove they are worth a spot or they get booted out.

why wouldnt the RFL keep changing teams every 3 years? thats what keeps clubs honest.'"



Because the RFL are not ' honest ' , do you seriously think they want all this crap every three years , having to choose a club to drop out , how exactly do you ' prove ' your worth ?

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Quote: Starbug "Because the RFL are not ' honest ' , do you seriously think they want all this crap every three years , having to choose a club to drop out , how exactly do you ' prove ' your worth ?'"


you prove your worth by looking at the franchise criteria and trying to maximise all areas of your application.

why are wakey after 15 years of making false promises trying their best for a new ground? cause they know they are gone without it.

SL should be for the elite clubs, clubs who are strong and contribute to the strength of the game. it should be because a club got lucky on grand final day

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Quote: dally messenger "once widnes had satisfied the criteria re winning the champ. / NR cup they didnt need to waste any more money on players which is essentially wastedhaving ticked that box they concentrated on the other areas of their franchise like the juniors and their crowds.'"



So having good 1 st team is wasting money , better tell Melbourne and W1g4n d040.gif

Their juniors were already in place well before franchising , those kids will have been with Widnes 6/7 years by now

Their crowds have gone down

Away you go try again

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Quote: dally messenger "barrow in their current state are not fit for SL.

their ground is a dump.
their finances are poor.
indeed i seriously doubt they ever will be fit for SL.

barrow in SL is taking the game backwards.'"


They let Celtic in with a dump , Cas twice ,

Finances better than Wakey ,Quins and Celtic

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Quote: Starbug "So having good 1 st team is wasting money , better tell Melbourne and W1g4n
yeah what about their profits / finances?
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Quote: Starbug "They let Celtic in with a dump , Cas twice ,

Finances better than Wakey ,Quins and Celtic'"


only an idiot would compare an expansion team to a heartland team.

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Quote: dally messenger "you prove your worth by looking at the franchise criteria and trying to maximise all areas of your application.

why are wakey after 15 years of making false promises trying their best for a new ground? cause they know they are gone without it.

SL should be for the elite clubs, clubs who are strong and contribute to the strength of the game. it should be because a club got lucky on grand final day'"



Like What , improve your crowds ? , to what ? , how big a crowd do you have to have ? , as big as Quins maybe ?

Juniors ? , so how many juniors , and why do Championship clubs have to produce juniors ? , is that going to improve the England/British team ? , do you know the rules the RFL use to accept an academy team are actually illeagal ?

So St George , W1g4n and Halifax , ' just got Lucky ' ?

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Quote: dally messenger "only an idiot would compare an expansion team to a heartland team.'"



So you admit that the heartland clubs outside SL might as well pack in , they will never get a Franchise

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Quote: dally messenger "you prove your worth by looking at the franchise criteria and trying to maximise all areas of your application.
why are wakey after 15 years of making false promises trying their best for a new ground? cause they know they are gone without it.

SL should be for the elite clubs, clubs who are strong and contribute to the strength of the game. it should be because a club got lucky on grand final day'"


the only way club can ' maximise ' its application , is to move , around 150 miles is the ideal , it worked for the Crusaders

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Once again , try again

Quote: "dally messenger wrote


So having good 1 st team is wasting money , better tell Melbourne and W1g4n

Their juniors were already in place well before franchising , those kids will have been with Widnes 6/7 years by now

Their crowds have gone down

Away you go try again

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