you are the only one claiming it was a crusher tackle, (probably the ape too), ive seen the game back a couple of times and not seen anything, yet you keep harping on about it

Its probably quite difficult for a wigan fan to understand and accept, yes we have lots of players (enforcers) in the game that do the bad stuff but it is not built into a structure extensively like the Wigan one. The RFL have a lot to blame in that they seem to give one particular team a certain amount of tolerance, hence the recent concern on appeals and leniency. Like posters have already said do we have to wait until a player breaks someones neck, causes permanent damage, fatality etc.

Quite - that was the beginning of Wigan's introduction of Thugby League under Maguire; the dressing room was adorned with incitements to injure the opposition. Wane has continued that ethos, but with significantly less finesse than his Aussie mentor - amply demonstrated by his documentary appearance, when he exhorted his players to: ""Knock people out. I can't give you any more of a free rein than that. Create f***ing mayhem. Be reckless. Because that's what's going to get us a f***ing win next week."

You've got to love the hypocrisy on display here. Wigan fouls are to be condemned, other fouls to be excused or glossed over. Player welfare is a huge concern until a Wigan player gets injured by one of yours. Sort your own houses out first.

Quote: Wigg'n "We've had one player banned for a tackle on the legs (it wasn't a cannonball ffs), one for touching a ref and one for a high tackle. Hardly all out war on the pitch is it? Fwiw we have been on the end of plenty of shathouse tactics ourselves this season. Clubb is out for the season and requires neck surgery because of a crusher tackle by a player that wasn't banned, not referred to the disciplinary and not even penalised.'" Forget bans and what's in the rules or not. Listen to Mcdermott's post match interview on the rhinos website. www.therhinos.co.uk/tv/brian-mcd ... 5SvDzVFs9o From 4:43 onwards.

Quote: Wigg'n "We've had one player banned for a tackle on the legs (it wasn't a cannonball ffs), one for touching a ref and one for a high tackle. Hardly all out war on the pitch is it? Fwiw we have been on the end of plenty of shathouse tactics ourselves this season. Clubb is out for the season and requires neck surgery because of a crusher tackle by a player that wasn't banned, not referred to the disciplinary and not even penalised.'" Forget bans and what's in the rules or not. Listen to Mcdermott's post match interview on the rhinos website. www.therhinos.co.uk/tv/brian-mcd ... 5SvDzVFs9o From 4:43 onwards.

Excellent defence mechanisms.

1.Mcdermott hasn't defended Ablett.
2.I haven't seen the incident but from what i gather it was part of a scuffle. It's not something that is systematically coached, I.E ablett going into every tackle gouging.
3. It's not specifically 3rd men in. It's where they are going in.

Oh well I suppose if he only gouges players in scuffles that's ok. If that's Mcdermott's attitude no wonder Ablett's the way he is. Maybe he should address the issues within his own club rather than turning a blind eye to them?

No one has said it was ok. I pointed out the fact it happened in a scuffle to illustrate the fact it wasn't a premeditated act. Whereas those type of tackle are. But instead of debating the point you are just deflecting. Classic defence mechanisms. I'll not elaborate on this issue because I don't want to go there so I'll just point out something someone else did.

I'm not deflecting, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it. If anyone is deflecting it's McDermott since his player gouged someone and he points the finger at Wigan. Like I said, some people need to sort their own houses out or their holier than thou posturing looks pretty phony.

He was asked about the Tautai tackle last week after the match and he answered, he was asked about Wane's comments after this weeks match and he answered. Hardly deflecting by answering the questions put to him. If somebody asked him about a possible gouge by Ablett and he declined to talk about it and changed subject then you'd have a point, but since they didn't then you don't have anything. I doubt minutes after the game ended he was online checking out all the stills opposition fans had posted of the Ablett incident to even know about it.

Brian Mac said what RL supporters of clubs other than Wigan have been saying for ages - that type of reckless, unnecessary tackle technique is a scourge on the game and should be stamped out. I can't see how anyone can find that to be controversial - it's undeniably the case.

Thing is as well, that after the Wigan game his initial comments he did his best to not point the finger at Wane or Wigan or even Tautai. He just wanted to point towards that type of tackle in the game in general.

Yet Wane had to play the victim card and accuse McDermott of trying to influence the disciplinary.....why would we btw as we are entering the Middle 8's so the length of Tautai's ban has no effect on us.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure you Leeds fans would do the same when Wane answers a question posed to him.